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What Kind Of Adaptive Nano Membrane

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Kriag Okinuus
42nd Devils and Dragons
#1 - 2012-11-29 16:50:21 UTC
Should I use for my Vengeance? I see a lot of people's fittings including Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II. Is it the best in value?
Aestivalis Saidrian
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#2 - 2012-11-29 16:54:47 UTC
Yes, because its basically having a second ship bonus in the case of the Vengeance. Plus you generally have all the CPU ever so Why Not?
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C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2012-11-29 16:57:53 UTC
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Kriag Okinuus
42nd Devils and Dragons
#4 - 2012-11-29 16:58:11 UTC
But for example, Centum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane has 26.375% res on all instead of 20 and comes a tad cheaper. Why would I go with the first one if its prerequisites are also higher.
Kosetzu
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#5 - 2012-11-29 17:09:03 UTC
A matter preference in price/availability. Most just go with T2 because that's what you advance to from T1/meta. Deadspace has always been designed to be better, though not as available.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-11-29 17:15:49 UTC
Kriag Okinuus wrote:
But for example, Centum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane has 26.375% res on all instead of 20 and comes a tad cheaper. Why would I go with the first one if its prerequisites are also higher.

because the second one is expensive, d'uhhh.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Perihelion Olenard
#7 - 2012-11-29 17:37:06 UTC
In smaller ships it's better to get the adaptive nano plating instead of energized adaptive nano membrane. The c-type adaptive nano plating is practically as good as a tech 2 EANM and requires no CPU and only 1 PG. The cost really isn't too bad for deadspace, either.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#8 - 2012-11-29 17:46:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jerick Ludhowe
Perihelion Olenard wrote:
In smaller ships it's better to get the adaptive nano plating instead of energized adaptive nano membrane. The c-type adaptive nano plating is practically as good as a tech 2 EANM and requires no CPU and only 1 PG. The cost really isn't too bad for deadspace, either.


This pretty much. C-type adaptive is very good on any cpu tight ships trying to fit 2x eanmII but are otherwise unable. As stated the c-type adaptive only takes 1 grid and provides very close to 20% to all resistances prior to comp skills which put the module right around 24% at lvl 5.

As for the vengeance? Pretty sure you have enough cpu to just fit an Energized Adaptive Nano II which has a tiny bit more resistance compared to the c-type adaptive at much lower cost.
Kriag Okinuus
42nd Devils and Dragons
#9 - 2012-11-29 22:26:29 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Perihelion Olenard wrote:
In smaller ships it's better to get the adaptive nano plating instead of energized adaptive nano membrane. The c-type adaptive nano plating is practically as good as a tech 2 EANM and requires no CPU and only 1 PG. The cost really isn't too bad for deadspace, either.


This pretty much. C-type adaptive is very good on any cpu tight ships trying to fit 2x eanmII but are otherwise unable. As stated the c-type adaptive only takes 1 grid and provides very close to 20% to all resistances prior to comp skills which put the module right around 24% at lvl 5.

As for the vengeance? Pretty sure you have enough cpu to just fit an Energized Adaptive Nano II which has a tiny bit more resistance compared to the c-type adaptive at much lower cost.

How does the Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II have more resistance when they're all at -20%? All the other Adaptive Nano Membranes i'm looking at got higher percentages and go for cheaper. I still don't understand.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#10 - 2012-11-29 22:31:58 UTC
Kriag Okinuus wrote:

How does the Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II have more resistance when they're all at -20%? All the other Adaptive Nano Membranes i'm looking at got higher percentages and go for cheaper. I still don't understand.


You're confusing adaptive nano membrane with energized adaptive nano membrane. Comparing t2 mods, energized adaptive nano membrane II gives 20% resistance before comp skills, adaptive nano membrane II gives 15%. The c-type adaptive (almost 20%) is a derivative of the adaptive member nano membrane and thus uses no cpu. The mods you're talking about are derivatives of the eanmII thus are more powerful but consume significant cpu.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#11 - 2012-11-29 22:40:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Either you are living in a place where the market is messed up or you are confusing different mods without looking at their specific stats (the devil is in the details).

If the problem is the former... normally, Tech 2 EANMs go for around 1 to 1.5 mil a pop. A C-Type dead-space Adaptive Plating can go anywhere from 5 to 10 mil a pop. The Tech 2 EANM should be cheaper.

If the issue is the latter... you'll notice that not all the Energized Membranes provide the same bonuses. Some will give high bonuses but ONLY in a specific resistance, others give omni-resistances but at lower values... and all of the above will give progressively lower or higher bonuses depending in their meta level (hint: higher meta-level, higher resistances).

Also bear in mind that there are four skills (EM Compensation, Explosive Compensation, etc) that affect the resistance values Energized and Resistance Platings.


Or I could be completely misunderstanding you... in which case use EVELOPEDIA to link the mods you have questions about and/or want to compare.

How did you Veterans start?
Kriag Okinuus
42nd Devils and Dragons
#12 - 2012-11-29 22:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Kriag Okinuus
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
You're confusing adaptive nano membrane with energized adaptive nano membrane. Comparing t2 mods, energized adaptive nano membrane II gives 20% resistance before comp skills, adaptive nano membrane II gives 15%. The c-type adaptive (almost 20%) is a derivative of the adaptive member nano membrane and thus uses no cpu. The mods you're talking about are derivatives of the eanmII thus are more powerful but consume significant cpu.

I'm still talking about Energized Adaptive Nano Membranes, sorry if I didn't type it right.

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II has 20% resistances and uses 1 MW and 36 tf CPU while Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane for instance has 28.375% resistances and uses 1 MW and 38 tf CPU. They both go failry at the same price. Why would I go with the first one instead of second?

Edit:: First one is only 300k cheaper. Second module actually has 28.3125% resistances.
Kriag Okinuus
42nd Devils and Dragons
#13 - 2012-11-29 22:49:13 UTC
Aestivalis Saidrian wrote:
Yes, because its basically having a second ship bonus in the case of the Vengeance. Plus you generally have all the CPU ever so Why Not?

It has a second ship bonus for my ship? Where do you see that?
Gomohr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-11-29 22:50:00 UTC
Kriag Okinuus wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:


I'm still talking about Energized Adaptive Nano Membranes, sorry if I didn't type it right.

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II has 20% resistances and uses 1 MW and 36 tf CPU while Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane for instance has 28.375% resistances and uses 1 MW and 38 tf CPU. They both go failry at the same price. Why would I go with the first one instead of second?

Edit:: First one is only 300k cheaper. Second module actually has 28.3125% resistances.



Where in hell is A-type the same price as t2 ? Last time i checked, they were worth 400+M
If you found it at the same price, buy the A-type, but it still seems strange. Are you playing on test server ?
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#15 - 2012-11-29 22:51:48 UTC
Kriag Okinuus wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
You're confusing adaptive nano membrane with energized adaptive nano membrane. Comparing t2 mods, energized adaptive nano membrane II gives 20% resistance before comp skills, adaptive nano membrane II gives 15%. The c-type adaptive (almost 20%) is a derivative of the adaptive member nano membrane and thus uses no cpu. The mods you're talking about are derivatives of the eanmII thus are more powerful but consume significant cpu.

I'm still talking about Energized Adaptive Nano Membranes, sorry if I didn't type it right.

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II has 20% resistances and uses 1 MW and 36 tf CPU while Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane for instance has 28.375% resistances and uses 1 MW and 38 tf CPU. They both go failry at the same price. Why would I go with the first one instead of second?

Edit:: First one is only 300k cheaper. Second module actually has 28.3125% resistances.



WTF?

Eve central has Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane listed at 800+mil isk......yeah EANMII are way cheaper

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Kriag Okinuus
42nd Devils and Dragons
#16 - 2012-11-29 22:54:13 UTC
Oh man, I feel stupid now. I could have sworn the 3 last digits were following a comma.

Nevermind xD
The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-11-30 00:53:48 UTC
While we're talking big price differences, the meta 4'' Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating 1' has the same resist bonus as the T2 Adaptive Nano Plating for a fraction of the cost. Big smile

The only time you should ever use the t2 version is when you're far away from a supply chain and have to get them made.