EVE General Discussion

Just to query, there is a realistic chance of this happening?
Not one of those, assuming you get sufficiently large group of people things or the Goons decide to let you have it for a few months then take it all back over night?

Thank you for your constructive appreciation, however I would like you to answer a couple questions, if you please:

1-who or what is making so you can't take over a couple of those tech moons and systems?
*inability to attract players and recruit
*inability to find decent reimbursement programs so your grunts don't have to take it all from their pockets to defend YOUR & YOUR FRIENDS tràlàlà wallet
*inability to cooperate with other corporations, alliances without backstabbing each other

2-why should CCP handle your hand and give you for free what you can't afford?

3-what is preventing you from cooperation with those, despite getting spanked several times, are still over there and fight for their space? (props to these because fun playing it's better than forum crying about tech)

4-why do you need tech to live in null or have systems over there?

I will answer the first bit for you. Just because there is a dole payment does not mean I want to be unemployed, just like here there is a welfare payment from CCP but I wouldn't want to be a blobber to have to get it.


Is that a question for me? As CCP seems to be giving the free hand outs to Null or have they suddenly put tech moons in lo-sec or wormholes?


Well besides blob warfare being 1 step above drooling, how about the fact that the welfare payouts have been so large that the alliance involved actually has enough cash to just throw thousands of ship away and just not care, while those without welfare must work for their cash.

You mean besides a) why would you bother Null is broken or b) having an alliance with an inexhaustible number of ships requires that the conquest occur from the inside as no one will now conquer them externally, thank you welfare.

I'll answer to you the obvious to this first part, it's a choice you made by yourself, therefore that choice has consequences and you have to assume them. But I understand it's far easier to call it "blobber warfare".

Now, I've got good news for you: there is tech in low sec but not in wh's. You can therefore fight for low sec tech without being a blobber, but once again it's your choice, no one is or will take decisions for you nor is or will assume consequences for you.

The choice is there, you either take it or leave it.
I'm not saying tech as it is implemented is the best way to do it, hell no, goons were the first ones to claim this for years and were joked about by those crying today.
But first things first, no one complained up until now, so where's the real problem? -tech, those holding it, those unable to take it back/get it or simply the way null sec mechanics are made of?
It's not players fault for playing the game the way it's intended, but it's players fault for not using or being unable to use the same in game tools to succeed, and I guess this is the point where we disagree.

The fact there needs to be something worth to fight for in null is undeniable, the way and what, that is another discussion way beyond my or your gaming knowledge but we can and should have an opinion about this, however point fingers at players playing the game the way it's intended it's calling the bad target.

I think I've answered completely to your different statements and think I'm being constructive/polite, but please be my guest to correct me if I'm wrong.

Are you serious? Even the might of NC. Evoke, Black Legion and Nulli (which I may add are LONG TERM major pvp alliances) COULD NOT STOP CFC taking all the tech moons and tribute and vale. So please stop spouting complete and utter trash. Im sorry but quotes like this seriously annoy me.

Nothing has and nothing will change...

Welcome to Goonswarm Online: Your **** is ours...

You know a lot of eve is about the meta game right?

The single biggest advantage a new player can possibly get is knowing the right people from the start.

You can buy a 100mil sp character, read all the guides you can find, buy isk, fly the most expensive ships out there and nothing will amount the advantage that just knowing 1 or 2 people in the right places will give you.

Ok scratch head time

I have always said it is a CCP welfare program for Null.

I missed anywhere, where I said CFC, PL, NC ect.. were the problem.

The mechanic has created a problem in allowing Goonswarm to become so rich that losses in a war will only ever matter on a moral side and not a financial side.

As to the solution well mine personally is get rid of moon mining, I don't like passive income that players only have to assist every few weeks or top down financing for corporations.

I used to like the idea of ring mining as a multiplayer required mining op, but now that seems to have developed into a gun mining fiasco..Incursion style.

retracted

above made more sense after you edited it.

Where did you get this idea that null sec ISN'T bout groups as large as the GSF? The CFC isn'g GSF, entire alliances made up of individual corps need to maintain working relationships in order for the CFC or any coalition to survive; that's PLAYERS WORKING TOGETHER IN NULL SEC.

Your ****** little corp, a part of just as crappy and little an alliance, isn't an EMPIRE.
CCP states null as being the place were PLAYERS build EMPIRES. Not guild housing.


The problem isn't mechanics, it's rediculous player expectation. If you think that null sec is there for little groups of people to "fight" their way into control of space, then you're doing it wrong.


Null sec is supposed to mirror NPC contoled high sec, but run by the players. CCP didn't make it possible to rercuit thousands of people into a single corp, and then connect that corp to multiple other corp of thousands of people so that a few dozen can do what several thousand can.

Stupidity apparently has no limit, because I see people crying about other people doing exactly what CCP wants them to do. If that's not stupid, then I'm to stupid to know what stupid is.