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Floseswin falls to Minmatar Militia

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Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-11-28 08:03:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
Sebastien Starstrider wrote:
Braitai wrote:
Noticing the lack of Ushra Khan damage dealing ships on the bunker LNA needed to act fast before the Amarr fleet arrived. Concerns for our fleet integrity was very high as Ushra Khan has a history of aggression against LNA members. Approximately 03:20 the decision was made for LNA to clear out the hostile fleet of Ushra Khan and take the bunker.


Are you admitting to have initiated the engagement in this situation?

Also, labeling us as hostiles is perhaps inappropriate. Whether or not your alliance agreed to our truce, we were operating under the assumption that one was in place, and no hostilities were initiated and no provocation made to draw your alliance into a confrontation. It would be more appropriate to refer to us as 'war targets'.


You say this a lot. All the while killing our members. You say truce then, at the same, time see and kill pricey ships, then whine that you are being picked on when we respond. I think you are the most sociopathic alliance I've come across.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

uredo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-11-28 09:14:56 UTC
*gets popcorn*

This is fun.
kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-11-28 09:15:39 UTC
Reality U'K took Floseswin together with allied. LNA showed up at the last minute to engage friendly militia and pretend do have done something.

LNA you are pathetic.
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-11-28 10:06:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Reality U'K took Floseswin together with allied. LNA showed up at the last minute to engage friendly militia and pretend do have done something.

LNA you are pathetic.


That's a load of bull and you know it.

The bunker was 3/4 shields still when we arrived. Lying on behalf of UK doesn't change the facts. You are probably a UK alt, that is so blatant.

FYI TRIAD was not a significant part of it anyway. That is pathetic, coupled with you coming here to talk rubbish. LNA was over half of the pilots there, the rest mixed militia with not much DPS at all. If we weren't there, Almity would have wiped the system with your dead corpses because you would have spent way too much time to kill it.

That's a fact, Jack.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

Andiedeath
We Aim To MisBehave
Kenshin Shogunate.
#25 - 2012-11-28 10:11:00 UTC
Amun Khonsu wrote:
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Reality U'K took Floseswin together with allied. LNA showed up at the last minute to engage friendly militia and pretend do have done something.

LNA you are pathetic.


That's a load of bull and you know it.

The bunker was 3/4 shields still when we arrived. Lying on behalf of UK doesn't change the facts.

FYI TRIAD was not a significant part of it anyway. That is pathetic, coupled with you coming here to talk rubbish. LNA was over half of the pilots there, the rest mixed militia with not much DPS at all. If we weren't there, Almity would have wiped the system with your dead corpses because you would have spent way too much time to kill it.

That's a fact, Jack.


So that means you are calling most of the Militia liars!... LOL the Trolls are in action today. Are you sure your not an alt of Cynthia? LNA did nothing to support the taking of Flosewin. Even after repeated calls for assistance.

Director

Sefem Velox

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Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-11-28 10:12:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
Andiedeath wrote:
Amun Khonsu wrote:
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Reality U'K took Floseswin together with allied. LNA showed up at the last minute to engage friendly militia and pretend do have done something.

LNA you are pathetic.


That's a load of bull and you know it.

The bunker was 3/4 shields still when we arrived. Lying on behalf of UK doesn't change the facts.

FYI TRIAD was not a significant part of it anyway. That is pathetic, coupled with you coming here to talk rubbish. LNA was over half of the pilots there, the rest mixed militia with not much DPS at all. If we weren't there, Almity would have wiped the system with your dead corpses because you would have spent way too much time to kill it.

That's a fact, Jack.


So that means you are calling most of the Militia liars!... LOL the Trolls are in action today. Are you sure your not an alt of Cynthia? LNA did nothing to support the taking of Flosewin. Even after repeated calls for assistance.


No, just you who are lying on behalf of UK.. All militia knows we are telling the truth.

We spent the last three days working flos (getting shot by UK) because before that we had other amarrian attacks in more important systems.

No worries, we expect UK to act treacherously as they have since before the wardec.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-11-28 10:25:28 UTC
We plexed floseswin vunerable, it would have fallen according to plan. Regardless of whatever bullshit you spout. TRIAD has been key in capturing Floseswin and saving isbra. That you don't know this is sign enough that you don't give a **** about the militia or its strategic goals.
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-11-28 10:36:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
We plexed floseswin vunerable, it would have fallen according to plan. Regardless of whatever bullshit you spout. TRIAD has been key in capturing Floseswin and saving isbra. That you don't know this is sign enough that you don't give a **** about the militia or its strategic goals.


I (and other LNA guys) was there plexing it vuln with you (though not in your fleets). TRIAD was not there in any significant number for the bunker bust.

You know it. So stop trying to spin the facts for your masters in UK.

Youve only been out of UK 3 months and in TRIAD. I've (we've) worked with TRIAD and its leadership for nearly 4 years (3 .5 years longer than UK has been in militia). Best you keep your comments to yourself and let UK do the answering.

I (we) care more about militia goals than you could dream and for longer.

Funny how once UK comes to militia and starts aggressing people all of this starts. Its UK that isnt familiar with militia goals and doesnt seem to care about working together towards them despite their condescending rhetoric.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-11-28 11:04:44 UTC
Of course we weren't there for the bunkerbust TRIAD is a EUTZ corp,. For the record we have been plexing floseswin for a week straight, in conjunction with U'K. Something apparently the entire militia knows except for you. For your info, TRIAD left U'K earlier this month, so I have nt been out of U'K for 3 months. Odd you didn't realize that, with you awesome sensenof situational awareness.
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-11-28 11:09:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Of course we weren't rhere for the bunkerbust TRIAD is a EUTZ corp,. For the record we have been plexing floseswin for a week straight, in conjunction with U'K. Something apparently the entire militia knows except for you. As for your info, TRIAD left U'K earlier this month, so I have nt been out of U'K for 3 months. Odd you didn't realize that, with you awesome sensenof situational awareness.


So, you just contradicted your previous statement that LNA had no significant impact on the bunker today.

You are only a 2011 character from rifterlings (formerly at war with us and now joined to the UK alliance). You quit rifterlings to join TRIAD and been there for ONLY 3 months. I think you are not very knowledgable of these issues and are prejudiced against the facts.

You dont speak for TRIAD by any stretch and certainly are incorrect in your assertions. Best you quit talking about things you clearly know little or nothing about. TRIAD and LNA are on good terms. One of their new members (from UK no less) spouting off here (on their behalf seemingly) wont make them happy Im sure.

I dont doubt TRIAD ahs been helping UK in that area. We have been working the area also and are not taking any credit for making it vulnerable. You cant say we havent helped.

You would not now own that system if it wasnt for us busting the bunker today. Almity would have pwned you silly.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-11-28 11:24:33 UTC  |  Edited by: kraiklyn Asatru
Amun Khonsu wrote:


So, you just contradicted your previous statement that LNA had no significant impact on the bunker today.

You are only a 2011 character from rifterlings (formerly at war with us and now joined to the UK alliance). You quit rifterlings to join TRIAD and been there for ONLY 3 months. I think you are not very knowledgable of these issues and are prejudiced against the facts.

You dont speak for TRIAD by any stretch and certainly are incorrect in your assertions. Best you quit talking about things you clearly know little or nothing about. TRIAD and LNA are on good terms. One of their new members (from UK no less) spouting off here (on their behalf seemingly) wont make them happy Im sure.

I dont doubt TRIAD ahs been helping UK in that area. We have been working the area also and are not taking any credit for making it vulnerable. You cant say we havent helped.

You would not now own that system if it wasnt for us busting the bunker today. Almity would have pwned you silly.


I know TRIAD is on good terms with LNA, thats no doubt why you've only wardecced them now. Doesn't change that you are showing rather dickish behavior. I honestly don't care what you think of me, but this was a **** move and you know it. Susequently you make a forum post patting yourself on the back for it. Don't be surprised people respond when you act like that. We have been flying joint fleets for the past weeks so when you attack a fleet doing a bunkerbust like that I can't and won't shut up.
Andiedeath
We Aim To MisBehave
Kenshin Shogunate.
#32 - 2012-11-28 12:35:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Andiedeath
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
We plexed floseswin vunerable, it would have fallen according to plan. Regardless of whatever bullshit you spout. TRIAD has been key in capturing Floseswin and saving isbra. That you don't know this is sign enough that you don't give a **** about the militia or its strategic goals.


Well actually 3-4 Corps/Alliances have been key to taking Flose. These cover the 3-4 major timezones. TRIAD for the EU TZ, UK for the US Timezone and Swift in the AU timezone. Although I'd suggest that people from some of the other alliances/corps have assisted over the last week as well and we thank them for it. All have been instramental in taking the system as if one of those timezones werent held the other timezones would have not been successful.

EDIT: Either way great job Minmatar Militia for the concerted efforts.

Director

Sefem Velox

INGAME CHANNEL: Sefem Public

kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-11-28 13:01:18 UTC
Andiedeath wrote:
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
We plexed floseswin vunerable, it would have fallen according to plan. Regardless of whatever bullshit you spout. TRIAD has been key in capturing Floseswin and saving isbra. That you don't know this is sign enough that you don't give a **** about the militia or its strategic goals.


Well actually 3-4 Corps/Alliances have been key to taking Flose. These cover the 3-4 major timezones. TRIAD for the EU TZ, UK for the US Timezone and Swift in the AU timezone. Although I'd suggest that people from some of the other alliances/corps have assisted over the last week as well and we thank them for it. All have been instramental in taking the system as if one of those timezones werent held the other timezones would have not been successful.

EDIT: Either way great job Minmatar Militia for the concerted efforts.


I know Swift Angels rock <3, uprising have been helping too, Annah was ready to offer assistance throughout as well. Really cool.

I'd like too give a shout out to Koza A Pielka too, you guys are my fav enemies.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#34 - 2012-11-28 17:54:21 UTC
If the point of this bulletin is to convince other TLF forces and the general public that LNA are fighting the good fight, LNA is not doing a good job of it. If you're going to make a habit of throwing war declarations at Militia Allies it would be a good idea to have diplomats better trained at spinning your side of the argument. As an allied Capsuleer with no previous involvement with UK or LNA my initial assessment upon reading the original announcement was that LNA had taken a blatantly agressive course of action in order to precipitate a confrontation with UK, and were attempting to put the mask of patriotism over it. Maybe the facts *are* different, but LNA's presentation is beyond self serving.

If you were worried about Amarr interference, why not focus your efforts on the interdiction of their fleet? You could have taken your fight to the enemy and covered for the TLF forces attacking the iHub.

As for the claim that the iHub was in 3/4 shields, sensor data posted by UK from the engagement clearly shows the iHub in Armor and dropping when the LNA fleet jumped in. By my estimation they would have easily taken down the iHub, despite your claim that the TLF fleet had too little DPS.
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#35 - 2012-11-28 18:11:30 UTC
Amun Khonsu wrote:
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
really cool story especially the part about the phantom amarr fleet when you flipped the bunker. when in reality it was just you guys killing fellow minmatar militia 'just cuz bro'


You mean the phantom fleet that camped ardar. Almity (amarr fc) had a fleet there ready to wipe you out. He can vouch for this as your leadership who was informed of the existence of the fleet. Unless you are saying you are too incompetent to notice a fleet that size about to jump you. Or you are saying your leadership withheld the intel intentionally.


huh? you really ASSUME alot dont you. the part about the amarr militia fleet going purple on purple with us. im sure that likely. the part about us supposedly being informed of another amarr militia fleet. the part about our leadership witholding intel lol.

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro

Sebastien Starstrider
Everything You Know and Love is Forfeit
#36 - 2012-11-28 18:14:13 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
If the point of this bulletin is to convince other TLF forces and the general public that LNA are fighting the good fight, LNA is not doing a good job of it. If you're going to make a habit of throwing war declarations at Militia Allies it would be a good idea to have diplomats better trained at spinning your side of the argument. As an allied Capsuleer with no previous involvement with UK or LNA my initial assessment upon reading the original announcement was that LNA had taken a blatantly agressive course of action in order to precipitate a confrontation with UK, and were attempting to put the mask of patriotism over it. Maybe the facts *are* different, but LNA's presentation is beyond self serving.

If you were worried about Amarr interference, why not focus your efforts on the interdiction of their fleet? You could have taken your fight to the enemy and covered for the TLF forces attacking the iHub.

As for the claim that the iHub was in 3/4 shields, sensor data posted by UK from the engagement clearly shows the iHub in Armor and dropping when the LNA fleet jumped in. By my estimation they would have easily taken down the iHub, despite your claim that the TLF fleet had too little DPS.


<3 I'm glad that a little homework has led you to a reasonable and sensible point of view. LNA has either made this argument very poorly, or they have no intention of being taken seriously and went at it for the fun and the 'troll' of it. I'm kind of leaning toward the latter, to be honest.
Crazy HybridChick
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-11-28 18:23:53 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
If the point of this bulletin is to convince other TLF forces and the general public that LNA are fighting the good fight, LNA is not doing a good job of it. If you're going to make a habit of throwing war declarations at Militia Allies it would be a good idea to have diplomats better trained at spinning your side of the argument. As an allied Capsuleer with no previous involvement with UK or LNA my initial assessment upon reading the original announcement was that LNA had taken a blatantly agressive course of action in order to precipitate a confrontation with UK, and were attempting to put the mask of patriotism over it. Maybe the facts *are* different, but LNA's presentation is beyond self serving.

If you were worried about Amarr interference, why not focus your efforts on the interdiction of their fleet? You could have taken your fight to the enemy and covered for the TLF forces attacking the iHub.

As for the claim that the iHub was in 3/4 shields, sensor data posted by UK from the engagement clearly shows the iHub in Armor and dropping when the LNA fleet jumped in. By my estimation they would have easily taken down the iHub, despite your claim that the TLF fleet had too little DPS.


I approve of this post.
Well said.

Our fight is not within our own milita, but against the the amarr slavers.
"We come for our people"

When people feel the need to abuse their powers and disrupt a friendly milita fleet from flipping an enemy system into friendly hands is taking things a bit too far, all joking aside. LNA are a part of the same milita as UK, we fight for the cause against the amarr.. if you dont like the rules, change them. I'm sure HotPocket can find something for you guys to do if you arent happy with your current targets as a part of the minmatar milita.

☼-Thank you everyone for your teamwork in flo-☼

We got the job done with the help of everyone working together.
Even if we did have to take a few losses.

Getting a friendly milita fleet to cyno in to help take down an enemy ihub is quite a different thing from getting hotdropped while trying to take out one.
LNA - Please sort your overview, and your priorities and join us for good fights against the amarr.
(Did I ever get on that ******* maller KM or not?!)

See you on the battlefield.

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Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
#38 - 2012-11-28 19:19:05 UTC
Join you guys in the war? LNA, and before its incarnation has always, and will always live directly on the front line of the war. We have lived in the amarr's former home system, effectively exterminating them from the system. How about you join us in the war...
Phobos Eversor
Order of the Black Dagger
#39 - 2012-11-28 22:02:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Phobos Eversor
Gritz1 wrote:
How about you join us in the war...


We tried; you dropped battleships and an Archon on us while we were attacking an Amarrian Infrastructure hub, even though you were informed beforehand that U'K had no intentions of firing upon LNA ships at aforementioned ihub. How do you expect us to "join [you] in the war" when you decline that kind of olive branch?
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-11-28 22:06:44 UTC
I, such as I am, stand behind my old allies from Ushra'Khan. They've always been good to me, and dealt fairly and honestly with me and my friends even when they had no obligation to do so. LNA should focus more on fighting the Amarr - they're the real enemy here, guys.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.