Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Wouldn't mind some thermal scanning device to check if a cloaked ship is on grid, thing has got to have a tailpipe right

A seperate suggestion to the current Afterburner module or a new propulsion module.

There was discussion in one of the frigate threads about the afterburner(aka AB) still being underwhelming despite its current advantages when compared to the more essential MWD prop module.

Despite having no sig-radius bloom and other aspects, the AB is simply lacking - let alone as soon as one is webbed by multiple sources. It is also common for any tackling ship to have webs.

A suggestion I made did meet some support, so I insisted to post here after all.


As another interesting feature for the AB (or a third prop module):
An extra bonus that ensures the base speed to remain on 80% velocity, regardless if one is tackled by hundreds of webs or not. This would ensure that a ship could still maintain its speed without essentially being immediately marked by doom. Such ship could still perhaps make it out of trouble.

Situationally, this said ship could still be scrambled. It is also still slower than a MWD ship (duh ;)).
This specific "maintain speed cap" could be altered by Afterburner skill level, too, if necessary.


On the other hand,
a seperate new module could be interesting to implement as well.
It simply applies an "immunity against webbing slow mechanics", but no speed bonus at all, as it is just to ensure "you cannot be webbed".

For all, the ruleset of "one active propolsion module" applies as normal. A capsuleer could decide to go dual prop (or even tri prop ) and actually survive.

Webbing specific ships such as Huginn/Rapier/Hyena/etc could still tackle from a far.

Penalty:
There was also a suggestion of applying either a higher cap need or even a scaling cap need effect. The more webs are placed upon the ship using this new AB bonus will result in it requiring more cap/power to ensure the bonus. So this should effect active tanking or even cap for guns too.

I've not read the full thread, so forgive me if these have been mentioned:

One use mod:

Some form of emergency warp mod - can only be used once but will burn through any scramming/bubble and let your ship warp. Kinda like a one shot big red 'get me the hell out of here' button.

Possible one use mod/repeat use mod:

Wormhole 'slipstream' mod that reduces the mass of the ship for the purpose of using Wormholes. Maybe by 25 or 50%. Basically working the opposite of what going through a WH with a MWD on does just now.

New mods/script use:

A remote resistance projector (Armor/Shield) - works same as remote reps but repairs a small amount of damage while boosting a specific armor or shield resistance. Resistance type determined by scripts.

Armour version of the ASB - uses nanite paste instead of cap charges. Otherwise functionally the same. Same reload time and probably more expensive to run given the cost of the paste.

And lastly, some weird concept that's been bouncing around my skull. A weapon probably similar to a webber or neut in operation, that transfers overloaded generated heat. So if the fitted ship is not generating any, they cannot transfer - if they are generating and can't get a lock or keep a lock, they could be risking burnout. The heat they create themselves effectively becomes the ammo.

Tied in with that could be a logi mod which takes heat out of another ship and absorbs it into the logi - perhaps in conjunction with the much mentioned heat sink mod that absorbs module generated heat?

I like the idea of being able to break warp at a penalty (maybe massive heat buildup too?), but the bubble is too easy to abuse for a pirate party. All a frig would have to do is align to the same target, jump, break, then call in the gank when the freighter drops out. A string of 2-3 frigs could capture a majority of traffic between two gates, making it a griefer's wet-dream, so -1 to that part of the idea.

Doesn't the Target Breaker do this (for the fitted ship only)? Has anyone tried one? I'd think if a Skorp got primaried, you'd just pop the TB.

edited out: wrong forum

With now every cruiser being capable of fitting dual web, we really need a counter to web or (assault) frigates will have no chance of survival within 10 km range of any cruiser.

Therefore I propose you invent the "Active Anti-Web" and the "Passive Anti-Web" module.

The "Active Anti-Web" module uses a medium slot and once activated it will reduce the speed penality of any enemy web on your ship by 50%. It should use some amount of cap though.

The "Passive Anti-Web" module uses a low slot and it doesn't need any activation. However it reduces the speed penality of any enemy web on your ship by just 30%.

First, a minor change in game play:
Let anchoring be available for any kind of ship.
maybe with increasing anchoring time depending on hull size,
e.g frigate & destroyer - 1 minute, cruiser & BC - 2 minutes, BS - 3 minutes, (non-super) captials - 4 minutes, super capitals 5 minutes
And of course the same time for unanchoring.
This time is required to turn the main engine off / on.

Before initiating the anchor process you have to eject.

Once the ship is anchored you can access the hangars and use modules similar to POS.
E.g. if you anchored a ship with a remote armor repair system, you could use that to repair another ship (not the one mounting that module).
In other aspects it behaves similar to an anchored container (anchored for corp or personal usage)

So, in case of carriers/Rorqual/Orca you would have a little base of operation but it would be pretty vulnerable.

Because of that we need the
Stealth Module
Only works with anchored ships and renders them improbable.
Otherwise similar to cloak, i.e. you may not run any other module beside.

While an anchored ship with a running stealth module is improbable,
every probable thing around still is probable. The ship itself will be probable again while unanchoring or after the stealth module is turned off, e.g. to run a repair system module.

Capital rigs
Web range rigs.

Capsule Fighters with no warp drive.

New Ship and Module idea. This is a Sniper based idea, I thought of after my last run at Dust.

I know we already have a 'Sniper' type setup for ships in EVE, but it occurred to me it isn't really a Sniper as far as ability and impact goes, providing very low DPS and generally being somewhat ineffective in that role, so here's what I was thinking.

The ship would be a Covert Ops Cruiser able to fit a Turret, (the new module), sort of like a Stealth Bomber fits a Bomb Launcher. It would be relatively low EHP as a Cruiser and have decent maneuverability and speed, while having no targeting delay for Covert Ops Cloaks. Just imagine a Stealth Bomber that was Cruiser sized for almost all intents and purposes aside from the targeting delay after dropping cloak.

Now, the module:

3-4 different varieties, with one for each Faction using the standard turret type base for each faction. Laser for Amarr, Hybrid for Gallente and Caldari, Projectile for Minmatar. Gallente and Caldari could be the same, or have slight differences.

Ammunition used would be either L or XL, and of course be of the same type as the base weapon type. No need to introduce new Ammunition. Theoretically, as I think of this, you could have two different guns for each Faction, one for each L and XL as options. Moving up to XL would of course cost you tracking and perhaps make the guns RoF and/or Spool up time slower.

So here's how it works:

Only one of these modules can be fit per ship, and each would have sufficient powergrid and CPU requirements to limit additional fitting, while making them fit appropriately within the category of damage they provide and yet still be functionally available for fitting on a Cruiser, while still being able to provide a decent fit for that ship using additional modules for tank, propulsion etc...

The module would function on a Spool up timer, firing at the end of that cycle, and like the Bomb launcher, have no repeat cycle. The Spool up timer would start once target lock was achieved, and would effectively immobilize the ship while requiring that the ship be facing an arc covering the target.

Basically, drop cloak with target at range in your arc of fire, click on the module and then the target, and once target lock has been achieved, your ship immobilizes much like occurs when you light a cyno and starts the spool up timer to fire. This should be 10-20 seconds.

Once the spool up timer is up, the weapon fires and your ship regains mobility while retaining target lock on the ship you were firing on. Clicking the module again will restart the spool up timer and progression to fire, immobilizing your ship as before. You can do this as many times as you like, and have position and availability of ammunition to fire.

The module itself will have tracking as with any turret, and be ineffective outside of its current arc. This means that a ship moving across its field of fire will be much harder to hit than one stationary, or moving directly towards it. If the ship targeted happens to leave the field of fire before the spool up timer elapses, then the weapon will go into a cool down cycle until the spool up timer elapses, rather than firing.

The module should have exceptional range, obviously well beyond Cruiser sized weapons, within the 100-200 km range. Arc of fire should be at least 30 degrees centered on the forward facing of the ship. Damage should be a very good alpha strike comparable to its ammunition and the purpose and use of the module and ship.

Depending on the Faction type of the weapon, it may offer higher Damage with slower spool up timers, or lower damage with shorter spool up timers; better or worse tracking, and of course, each will functionally provide damage appropriate to the ammunition used.

A true Sniper role ship for EVE. Complete Covert Ops capability, role and ship bonuses for increased damage and tracking, and/or reduced spool up timers. The ability to fit alternative highs, with maybe 3-4 Turrets or Launchers, and a High, Mid, and Low Slot layout comparable to other Tech 2 Cruisers of the appropriate variety.

Either a new Hull design, or an appropriate Hull with some slight changes from the standard Hulls for each Faction. For example, Minmatar might use a Stabber or Bellicose hull; I kind of like the Bellicose for this. Depending on the Faction, the Sniper ship might be a heavier hull with better defense, or a lighter hull with better mobility. I can see Caldari using a heavy hull for example; something like the Moa.

Anyway, that's the idea; like it or leave it.

edit: Another thought I had, but forgot to input above, was that the module could function like a passive targeter, so when it alone was activated on the intended target, it would passively lock until the shot was fired. Might be a needed or just cool addition. It's appropriate to the role anyway.