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CSM7 Dec Summit Topics and Minutes status

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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#1 - 2012-11-28 16:12:35 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Gargant
The 2nd CSM summit for CSM 7 will be happening December 12th-14th. We have been working hard with CCP to finalize the topics for the sessions. While these are possibly subject to change, we wanted to start collecting feedback from the players.

Note that there are several sessions that CCP has asked us to not announce (currently 4 topics).

Wednesday Schedule


Thursday Schedule


Friday Schedule

  • EVE Marketing - Dovinian - NDA REVIEW DONE
  • EVE Economy & PLEX - Trebor - NDA REVIEW DONE
  • NDA topic #4 - Trebor - NDA REVIEW DONE
  • Lunch
  • EVE UI - Kelduum - NDA REVIEW DONE
  • Ship Balancing - Elise - NDA REVIEW DONE
  • Art - Trebor - NDA REVIEW DONE
  • Live Events - Seleene - NDA REVIEW DONE
  • Community site - Very short session, paragraph written up by Trebor
  • Nullsec part 2 - Elise - NDA REVIEW DONE
  • DUST part 2 - FIRST DRAFT DONE by Hans


Please try to keep feedback for a specific session to the linked thread. If you have general questions or concerns, feel free to post them here

EDIT: Added new session (Out of Client (game on more platforms)), and moved Community site to Friday
EDIT 2: This is now including our status on minutes submitted to CCP for review

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Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-11-28 16:35:19 UTC
First and reading.

Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me
CCP Gargant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2012-11-28 16:42:54 UTC
Thread stickied good.

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GeeShizzle MacCloud
#4 - 2012-11-28 16:43:00 UTC
2nd and waiting for more info.... lol =)
Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
#5 - 2012-11-28 16:50:25 UTC
No feedback topics on lunch?

Fear God and Thread Nought
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#6 - 2012-11-28 17:02:13 UTC
Jackie Fisher wrote:
No feedback topics on lunch?


I'm waiting for the menus from CCP. If they try to give us fish balls again, we are going to Nonnis.

CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#7 - 2012-11-28 17:06:21 UTC
Two step wrote:
Jackie Fisher wrote:
No feedback topics on lunch?


I'm waiting for the menus from CCP. If they try to give us fish balls again, we are going to Nonnis.


Don't be so rude.

If you turn down fish offered to you by an Icelander they get driven into a terrible rage.

Why do you think fish is on all their money?

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
GeeShizzle MacCloud
#8 - 2012-11-28 17:06:45 UTC
Two step wrote:
Jackie Fisher wrote:
No feedback topics on lunch?


I'm waiting for the menus from CCP. If they try to give us fish balls again, we are going to Nonnis.


you'll only ever have Hákarl once!
Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-11-28 17:18:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Chitsa Jason
My Feedback.
The things I would like to talk about with CCP:

Mercs, Wars and Crimewatch and Bounties

Would there be a possibility to add bounties to POSs and other structures. How challenging is it and could that be done before POS revamp?

Does CCP have any new features in mind to make Merc profession easier and more streamlined? Merc Contract system comes to mind.

Null Sec

With more and more coalitions forming in null sec. It is harder for small corporations or alliances to get in without having friendly big guy. Not all people want to play 10.000 man coalitions. What would be your ideas to allow small entities to take foothold into null sec space?

Economy and PLEX

Why does CCP assure players that they want to stabilize PLEX prices and at the same time introduce New Eden open for PLEX. Video card for PLEX and now EON magazine for PLEX. It seems counter intuitive. Does CCP have any statistics on how those initiatives impact PLEX prices on short term?

Ship Balancing

Losing xp for dying in T3. We know that CCP mentions that it is intended. But why? The ship is expensive as it is.

What are CCP ideas on T3 balancing. Especially non Tengu ships. Does CCP think that T3 ships are too good or are they in the right place as they are?
Right now T3 ships are quite universal but some subsystems are way underused.
Does CCP have T3 subsystem usage statistics?

Live Events

It would be nice that Live Events would be advertised more. Not all people want to find some random ass hidden post or channel. I do not think i heard of any Live Event after PL shot CCP with supers. Were there more?

Could some LiveEvents be organized in wormhole space? Even if its just one CCP guy role playing in local most wormhole residents would be very happy.

Could some LiveEvents tie in with new players so they get more excited about the game and we get more people to shoot :)

EVE UI
Tag target shortcut and dscan distance in AU is one of the most requested features from wspace residents.
Would also like to hear about Dscan improvement ideas from CCP.

Voting system changes.

Are the changes needed at all? If change is needed is it critical.

Lunch

Lunch for PLEX? Cool

Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me
Kelduum Revaan
The Ebon Hawk
#10 - 2012-11-28 17:28:02 UTC
Post them in the relevant threads please Chitsa, or they may get missed.

We'll be going through the threads before the days sessions to make a list of points to cover, so I don't want things to get missed!
Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-11-28 18:47:04 UTC
Kelduum Revaan wrote:
Post them in the relevant threads please Chitsa, or they may get missed.

We'll be going through the threads before the days sessions to make a list of points to cover, so I don't want things to get missed!


Yeah just noticed my grave mistake :) Thanks for the tip.

Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me
Zyrbalax III
Goldcrest Enterprises
#12 - 2012-11-28 21:39:57 UTC
Unless it's one of the NDA sections, I don't see anything about POS revamp on the agenda. While I wouldn't expect CCP to have fleshed out their plans on this fully yet, I'm sure their thoughts have been developing in the background so I'd ask CSM to at least informally touch base with CCP on this topic to ensure CCP are not heading off in some random undesirable direction.

My personal wish for POSes is around scalability - I'm hoping for new POSes to be everything from one-man hideout with very limited capabilities but generally secure from detection to Lando Calrisian's Sky City in space, with eveything inbetween and the ability to build modularly (if that's even a word) from A to B.

Said it before, doesn't hurt to repeat :o)

Z3
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#13 - 2012-11-28 21:57:15 UTC
Zyrbalax III wrote:
Unless it's one of the NDA sections, I don't see anything about POS revamp on the agenda. While I wouldn't expect CCP to have fleshed out their plans on this fully yet, I'm sure their thoughts have been developing in the background so I'd ask CSM to at least informally touch base with CCP on this topic to ensure CCP are not heading off in some random undesirable direction.

My personal wish for POSes is around scalability - I'm hoping for new POSes to be everything from one-man hideout with very limited capabilities but generally secure from detection to Lando Calrisian's Sky City in space, with eveything inbetween and the ability to build modularly (if that's even a word) from A to B.

Said it before, doesn't hurt to repeat :o)

Z3


Echoing this, although the scalability you're talking about is, at least, part of what Greyscale has talked about wanting to have in the past.

What I'd like to see from a POS revamp is basically this: http://themittani.com/features/destroying-shipyards which I posted in the Nullsec thread.

Incidentally, another neat feature would be to be able to put a module on the POS that ties into the market system, but with taxes and fees set by the player who owns it. Same goes for the ability to have production and refining on a POS not be ball-crunchingly stupid as it is now. Some of the reasons are covered in the article I linked, but it would also give CCP a way to do to market fees and whatnot in Empire what they did to tax rates in NPC corps: Jack them up while simultaneously providing the tools to avoid them. Could be interesting. Bear

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fofofo
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#14 - 2012-11-28 21:58:43 UTC
Also very interested in the POS's. I would bet that's in one of the NDA'd discussions. Hay CSM! See if you can get CCP to give up some conceptual principals or concept art! We all know the POS rework is a big deal, a lot of work, and currently being worked on... maybe just a little update?

Thanks!

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Scottish Play
Major Kong Freight
#15 - 2012-11-28 22:25:06 UTC
Four NDA'd topics?

You'd think CCP actually had competition in the internet spaceships sandboxed gaming genre.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#16 - 2012-11-28 23:56:52 UTC
Scottish Play wrote:
Four NDA'd topics?

You'd think CCP actually had competition in the internet spaceships sandboxed gaming genre.


Whinging about the NDA? Poetic? Is that you?

Look, regardless, it's one thing to get panties all twisted up over the CSM "hiding behind the NDA" (whether or not its true) but assuming the NDA here is simply CCP not wanting to make public some features they've been, well, working on but not yet made public, there's nothing wrong with that.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#17 - 2012-11-29 01:14:34 UTC
2 out of the 4 NDA topics are actually pretty unremarkable looking. The other two are more interesting, hopefully in a good direction.

Alek the Kidnapper, Hero of the CSM
Scottish Play
Major Kong Freight
#18 - 2012-11-29 01:16:03 UTC
corestwo wrote:
Look, regardless, it's one thing to get panties all twisted up over the CSM "hiding behind the NDA" (whether or not its true) but assuming the NDA here is simply CCP not wanting to make public some features they've been, well, working on but not yet made public, there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm sure one of those NDA'd titles is POS REVAMP, and another might be RING MINING. Titles aren't giving away the farm, and they create interesting conversation and speculation among us plebs.
Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-11-29 15:03:04 UTC
Why is the POS revamp not on the table?

We have a WH rep and there's nothing even regarding the problems that can occur with the current ideas being thrown around.

Considering the revamp has had a threadnought and a 1+ hour TS session with WH corps I think it's a significant issue.

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-11-29 20:28:49 UTC
How much time is allocated for each session?
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