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Save the wormhole loot and our way of life from the farming hordes
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Abdul Secheh
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2012-11-27 12:37:39 UTC
Illipsys wrote:

I'm uncertain if the following is true also, but isn't there something about not being able to SD inside POS shields?


THIS! +1

Same opinion about PvP, no one will risk (if only you are not Garmon) your pretty ship if you feel TOTALLY suppressed by opposite numbers.

About isk making and risk in WH. You take a lot of risk while you do the anomalies in WH, with winter aggro fixes risks will be much higher. you get a lot but you risk a lot. thats the deal.
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2012-11-27 12:58:25 UTC
Pretty much what my opinion of things are has been already been said, but here's a tl;dr version to save everyone

1. IMO more people in WH space the better. This means more people to hunt and shoot
2. All items on the market in Eve (& RL) go in cycles with highs & lows.
3. With the looming POS changes - sieging the "farmers" will be worth your time as they can't self destuct anything in their POS' while you are nailing their manparts to the wall

Cheers,

Sith

Resident forum troll and fashion consultant
Christy D Floyd
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-11-27 15:17:31 UTC
Atleast the Miner bumper James 315 isnt in WH's. I love WH's since I have recently started to setup shop in one. I actually see the OP's point of view if your not willing to defend your WH then you dont deserve to be there. On the other hand WH's can be quite lucrative to the risk adverse pilot aka carebears. So kudos to the bear for stealing said wh profits.

Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons.
Matt Ellis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-11-27 15:58:39 UTC
To be honest, i'll agree and say that it sounds like you're moaning about people POSing up when a huge fleet comes.. Heck, if im hilariously outnumbered and outgunned, i wont stick around and fight when it means dying without a single chance of at least taking one guy with me... Call be a care-bear all you like, but i prefer fair fights.. don't particularly like getting my PvE ships hot-dropped by 10 T3s... not really that fun, is it?
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#45 - 2012-11-27 16:25:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Hidden Fremen
Lol, people are still posting in this thread... Damn it, so am I!
Illipsys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-11-27 17:43:13 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Lol, people are still posting in this thread... Damn it, so am I!


when did you ever stop posting? ;)
MyrddinBishop
NOMADS.
#47 - 2012-11-27 18:50:14 UTC
Disclaimer: The posts in this thread do not necessarily reflect that of the SSC or FCFTW management. Our official position on the matter is: W-Space is fine. Leave it alone.
Loki Lore
Requiem of a Pickaxe
#48 - 2012-11-28 01:32:40 UTC
LMFAO

Just saw this thread.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-11-28 02:46:56 UTC
Christy D Floyd wrote:
Atleast the Miner bumper James 315 isnt in WH's.

and the most random comment award goes to...
WHs could do with more people like James, not less.

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Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#50 - 2012-11-28 10:23:52 UTC
The current low prices for Nanoribbons hurt C1 and C2 income a lot because there the ribbons are the bulk of the loot, the blue loot is almost worthless. In C3 the MNR are still about 40% of site value, or used to be when they were at ~7m. So it's not true that blue loot accounts for 80-90% of loot value unless you live in C5/6.

That said, I also assume that the dive in MNR prices has more to do with incoming HML and T3 nerfs than increased farming activity.

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Sammybear
Pyke Syndicate
Solyaris Chtonium
#51 - 2012-11-28 10:32:41 UTC
Vjorn Angannon wrote:

Check out the devblog about The New and Improved Crimewatch

Specifically this:

"PVP Flag: This flag is activated when one player uses offensive modules against another. The initiator of the action will get a PVP flag. If the recipient is a piloted ship, then the owner of this ship will also get a PVP flag. Having this flag will prevent a ship from being removed from space if the pilot logs off. This flag functions in all areas of space."

and;

"NPC Flag: This flag is activated when a player uses offensive modules against an NPC (or vice-versa). Having this flag will prevent a ship from being removed from space if the pilot logs off. This flag functions in all areas of space."

Admittedly tho, I haven't read all the comments and any other proposals within, yet.


Ah hah! Thanks for the run down on it. I had not really related logout timers to WH fights, but it does make sense :D
Christy D Floyd
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-11-28 14:31:31 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Christy D Floyd wrote:
Atleast the Miner bumper James 315 isnt in WH's.

and the most random comment award goes to...
WHs could do with more people like James, not less.



Thank You Thank You I would like to thank james 315 and god for this award (Bows to audience and holds award up high) Thank you all again.

Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons.
sean1121
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#53 - 2012-11-28 16:02:05 UTC
TL;DR
Wormholes are hard yo, and I like it hard. Also, more QQ please.

Illipsys wrote:
p.s HAI GAIS


HAI Illi!
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#54 - 2012-11-28 17:47:51 UTC
They could just put more T3 ships in the game and not increase the amount of sleeper salvage and BAM INCREASED PRICES **** YEA.

T3's are a joke ship class though, like really, SP loss? What a dumb mechanic.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#55 - 2012-11-28 17:57:50 UTC
came here for carebear bash. left thoroughly confused.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#56 - 2012-11-28 18:14:11 UTC
MyrddinBishop wrote:
Disclaimer: The posts in this thread do not necessarily reflect that of the SSC or FCFTW management. Our official position on the matter is: W-Space is fine. Leave it alone.


+1 to SCC or FCFTW position. There is no problem with WH so we don't need any fixes. Just leave the dang game alone people...




btw, I am in no way affiliated with SCC or FCFTW :)

I just don't understand null sec players.

**Please note: **Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.
WInter Borne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-11-28 19:56:06 UTC
Too lazy to read everything.....

...but one thing i'd like to point out.

Cheaper sleeper loot means cheaper t3's (provided the producers are still producing with the utterly terrible margins).

Cheaper t3's means more people will pvp with them.
WInter Borne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-11-28 19:59:11 UTC
Matt Ellis wrote:
To be honest, i'll agree and say that it sounds like you're moaning about people POSing up when a huge fleet comes.. Heck, if im hilariously outnumbered and outgunned, i wont stick around and fight when it means dying without a single chance of at least taking one guy with me... Call be a care-bear all you like, but i prefer fair fights.. don't particularly like getting my PvE ships hot-dropped by 10 T3s... not really that fun, is it?

Well that largely depends on your definition of "fun".....some of us are quite taken with the concept of diving a wormhole against impossible odds and seeing how many of us make it out alive.
mulgrew Malukker
Weyland Mulgrew Corporation
#59 - 2012-11-29 16:00:12 UTC
Having met SSS a few time now over the time ive lived in WH space (going on 2 years ) i would have to say reading his comments that his idea of a good fight and mine would not be the same, and nobody in WH's would stay out in there mining barge or single T3 running sites when you see 10-15 ships on dscan come into your wh. The 1 time we did take the fight out to them were they still had bigger numbers they called in for reinforcements so it was still a gank :) , now dont get me wrong im not moaning i know this is eve and out in the wilds i dont think there is such a think as a fair fight as the attacking side wouldnt take it, so while you can keep going on about people wont come out and let you gank there ships you may want to take a look at the reason why, and as for sleeper loot dropping in value things do live with it or go back to high sec mining Trit is holding a good price at the mo :)
Matt Ellis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-11-29 16:04:36 UTC
WInter Borne wrote:
Matt Ellis wrote:
To be honest, i'll agree and say that it sounds like you're moaning about people POSing up when a huge fleet comes.. Heck, if im hilariously outnumbered and outgunned, i wont stick around and fight when it means dying without a single chance of at least taking one guy with me... Call be a care-bear all you like, but i prefer fair fights.. don't particularly like getting my PvE ships hot-dropped by 10 T3s... not really that fun, is it?

Well that largely depends on your definition of "fun".....some of us are quite taken with the concept of diving a wormhole against impossible odds and seeing how many of us make it out alive.


Oh, that i enjoy, but what i dont enjoy, is going into a fight where there is 0% chance i can make a dent. Multiple Logis, Jammers AND a tonne of DPS against a few stragglers isnt a fair or even a fun fight... To Shoot your ship at them would be reckless, and i'm not reckless...