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The end of Dec Shield

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Goonspiracy
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-11-27 22:05:34 UTC
The December 4th Retribution expansion are changing wardec mechanics to prevent the Dec Shield exploit. And it's about time:

CCP wrote:
The aggressor now has the option to retract a war that has been made mutual by the defender. This ends the war in 24 hours.

CCP wrote:
We’ve removed the cost multiplier based on number of wars you’re in, as this was causing issues when wars are being copied around.

CCP wrote:
Also, we’ve changed a little bit how the cost scales depending on number of characters in defender corp/alliance. The cost now starts ramping up faster than before and thus hits the ceiling of 500 million sooner. Before the cost started scaling up around the 128 character mark and hit the ceiling at ca. 7200. After the change, the cost starts ramping up with the 51st character and hits the ceiling at the 2000 character mark.
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73578

Everyone point and laugh at the scrubs in Dec Shield. Their game just got ruined. Now we can wardec anyone at will without permanent consequences \o/

Everyone should wardec Dec Shield just to see their tears when you slip away from them December 4th
Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#2 - 2012-11-27 22:08:50 UTC
I wonder if people are ever going to figure out that this change was the GOAL of dec shield in the first place...

Oh well.

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Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-11-27 22:09:24 UTC
Goonspiracy wrote:
Now we can wardec anyone at will without permanent consequences \o/


Which is the exact opposite of what CCP said they wanted when they introduced this new wardec mechanic. They said war would be something not to be entered into lightly, as there would be consequences. So much for that...
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#4 - 2012-11-27 22:11:16 UTC
Goonspiracy wrote:


Everyone point and laugh at the scrubs in Dec Shield. Their game just got ruined. Now we can wardec anyone at will without permanent consequences \o/

Everyone should wardec Dec Shield just to see their tears when you slip away from them December 4th


You do realize that the reason for Dec Shield existing was entirely founded on getting the exploit fixed right? Pretty sure their game got the opposite of ruined, and they accomplished their goal.
Ginger Barbarella
#5 - 2012-11-27 22:19:06 UTC
So, this is the *NEW* end of DecShield? Gotcha... Watching for goodness.

Does anyone have a revision number on this "End of DecShield" proclamation??

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Devon Krah'tor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-11-27 22:20:27 UTC
  • Ashterothi wrote:
    I wonder if people are ever going to figure out that this change was the GOAL of dec shield in the first place...

    • Oh well.

    ^This
    Greater.Insight.Skill.Knowledge
    Ashterothi
    The Order of Thelemic Ascension
    The Invited
    #7 - 2012-11-27 22:22:59 UTC
    I mean... they never hid it or anything. Man it is easy to have a secret shadow conspiracy plan in EVE.

    Also irony of OP name is not lost on me either.

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    Marlona Sky
    State War Academy
    Caldari State
    #8 - 2012-11-27 22:26:17 UTC
    Still waiting for goons to fly those armor tanked, blaster megas. *sigh*
    Yusef Yeasef Yosef
    Doomheim
    #9 - 2012-11-27 22:27:26 UTC
    Ashterothi wrote:
    I mean... they never hid it or anything. Man it is easy to have a secret shadow conspiracy plan in EVE.



    I'm starting up one next week. I'll get back to you once I figure out what it's about.
    Karn Dulake
    Doomheim
    #10 - 2012-11-27 22:53:26 UTC
    I love the Dec Shield.


    Join the Dec shield for those who want instant PvP

    Its only bad for coward blobbers or people who only wardec weaker younger corps.


    Adapt or die or ***** and moan on the forums while complaining about bears until its nerfed
    I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
    Akiyo Mayaki
    Perkone
    Caldari State
    #11 - 2012-11-27 22:55:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Akiyo Mayaki
    Goonspiracy wrote:
    The December 4th Retribution expansion are changing wardec mechanics to prevent the Dec Shield exploit. And it's about time:

    CCP wrote:
    The aggressor now has the option to retract a war that has been made mutual by the defender. This ends the war in 24 hours.

    CCP wrote:
    We’ve removed the cost multiplier based on number of wars you’re in, as this was causing issues when wars are being copied around.

    CCP wrote:
    Also, we’ve changed a little bit how the cost scales depending on number of characters in defender corp/alliance. The cost now starts ramping up faster than before and thus hits the ceiling of 500 million sooner. Before the cost started scaling up around the 128 character mark and hit the ceiling at ca. 7200. After the change, the cost starts ramping up with the 51st character and hits the ceiling at the 2000 character mark.
    http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73578

    Everyone point and laugh at the scrubs in Dec Shield. Their game just got ruined. Now we can wardec anyone at will without permanent consequences \o/

    Everyone should wardec Dec Shield just to see their tears when you slip away from them December 4th



    That akward moment when Dec Shield was created with the sole purpose to get nerfed.






















    Pirate

    No
    Tah'ris Khlador
    Space Ghosts.
    Break-A-Wish Foundation
    #12 - 2012-11-27 23:00:51 UTC
    Except Dec Shield can remove mutual before this goes live, and bounce corps between two different entities to maintain the current wardecs.

    Yep. Sure is fixed.

    Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance
    Dersen Lowery
    The Scope
    #13 - 2012-11-27 23:07:32 UTC
    Those aren't chickens you're counting, son. They're eggs.

    Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.

    I voted in CSM X!
    Shylari Avada
    Hedion University
    Amarr Empire
    #14 - 2012-11-27 23:17:31 UTC
    Marlona Sky wrote:
    Still waiting for goons to fly those armor tanked, blaster megas. *sigh*


    We used them, but somehow that roam got taken to Syndicate, where nothing special happened and we all just ended up back on the PF- gate talking about how slow double plated trimarked megas were and how we were never, ever doing it again.
    Wacktopia
    Fleet-Up.com
    Keep It Simple Software Group
    #15 - 2012-11-27 23:58:41 UTC
    Goonspiracy wrote:
    The December 4th Retribution expansion are changing wardec mechanics to prevent the Dec Shield exploit. And it's about time:

    CCP wrote:
    The aggressor now has the option to retract a war that has been made mutual by the defender. This ends the war in 24 hours.

    CCP wrote:
    We’ve removed the cost multiplier based on number of wars you’re in, as this was causing issues when wars are being copied around.

    CCP wrote:
    Also, we’ve changed a little bit how the cost scales depending on number of characters in defender corp/alliance. The cost now starts ramping up faster than before and thus hits the ceiling of 500 million sooner. Before the cost started scaling up around the 128 character mark and hit the ceiling at ca. 7200. After the change, the cost starts ramping up with the 51st character and hits the ceiling at the 2000 character mark.
    http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73578

    Everyone point and laugh at the scrubs in Dec Shield. Their game just got ruined. Now we can wardec anyone at will without permanent consequences \o/

    Everyone should wardec Dec Shield just to see their tears when you slip away from them December 4th


    Go read the decshield objective. Tip: it was to get this mechanic fixed. Roll

    Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
    Beekeeper Bob
    Beekeepers Anonymous
    #16 - 2012-11-28 03:17:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Beekeeper Bob
    That's just wrong....There should be a downside to declaring war. Cool


    And it's sad that CCP is so easily manipulated, it may cost them someday.

    Maybe they should just put in a bribery button. Then they could buy their way out of a war, wouldn't that better fit EvE's gameplay?

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    Oopsy Bear
    Doomheim
    #17 - 2012-11-28 04:55:07 UTC
    Beekeeper Bob wrote:
    That's just wrong....There should be a downside to declaring war. Cool


    They are removing the multiplier, not the original cost. So it is still at least 50 million per war. Not a lot of money by any means but it isn't free yet :)
    SmilingVagrant
    Doomheim
    #18 - 2012-11-28 05:23:02 UTC
    Marlona Sky wrote:
    Still waiting for goons to fly those armor tanked, blaster megas. *sigh*


    At the rate things are going we'll never get an armor doctrine no matter how much I whine.
    Alavaria Fera
    GoonWaffe
    #19 - 2012-11-28 08:26:01 UTC
    Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
    Except Dec Shield can remove mutual before this goes live, and bounce corps between two different entities to maintain the current wardecs.

    Yep. Sure is fixed.

    Wait, what.

    I expect a full :words: post from the Dec Shield people explaining how they're totally all going to be switching to the ~new~ highsec pvp mechanics.

    Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
    Thorn Galen
    Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
    The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
    #20 - 2012-11-28 08:42:29 UTC
    Ashterothi wrote:
    I wonder if people are ever going to figure out that this change was the GOAL of dec shield in the first place...

    Oh well.


    Spot on. o7

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