EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hey all, brand new capsuleer here. I'd like to request some clarification on my situation and then some advice on how to avoid making similar mistakes in the future.

From what I've gathered online so far, it seems Mining is a decent way for newbies like myself to get started. So, after playing through the opening tutorial, I started working for the Industrial agent, and found myself with a shiny new Bantam mining frigate. Not knowing if it was a bad idea to remove my Miner I from my starter ship, I purchased two new ones on the market for what seemed like a pretty good deal. On my way back to my home station (had to make 3 jumps to pick up the new lasers) I decided to try out my new purchase in the "safe"(0.9) system I happened to be in. So I warped to the closest asteroid field I could find, but before I could even target the nearby Scordite, my ship exploded in my face.

Now for the stupid part: feeling frustrated with the loss of my new ship so soon, I thought maybe I could at least save the lasers I had just bought. Of course, as soon as I showed up again, my starter ship got the same treatment as the Bantam. Doh!

Now, from my understanding, 0.9 is supposed to be pretty safe. Was I just unlucky, or should I have been better prepared before trying to mine in 0.9?

I realize I'll get a free replacement for my Caldari starter ship, so should I just plan to mine with that now, once I find some new lasers? I bought insurance for the Bantam, but the payout was minimal compared to the cost to purchase a replacement on the market.

So, any advice on how to proceed and/or how to prevent future mistakes like this?

Thanks in advance!

Your new Ibis will have a civilian mining laser, but the quickest way to get a new freebie Bantam is to run the first two missions in either the Business or Exploration tutorial.

Hmm... I was fairly certain that they spawned everywhere, with a few systems being exempt for anti-lag purposes (e.g. Jita, Rens, Amarr, etc). I can't seem to find any info supporting either of our stances, but then how could OP have gotten killed in 0.9 twice?

1.0 and 0.9 do not have belt rats. If the OP was mining in a 0.9 security system belt, then he must have been killed by a player. That would also explain why he didn't see it coming. Belt rats in high sec take a while to kill even an untanked frigate. I am sure that the OP would have figured out what was happening.

The solution is to find a quieter system. Most likely the 0.9 security system is a busy one, and someone was having fun that day ganking miners. OP: you are mostly safe in high-sec; however, if someone is willing to sacifice their ship, they can still kill you anywhere. All you can do is to try to avoid attention, and moving to an quiet system is a good way to start.

Time to go back to school Mr ISD.

1.0 and 0.9 systems don't have Rat spawns on asteroid belts.

0.8 and lower has.

To OP:

1.) Are you sure it was 0.9, if it was lower it could be belt rats.

2.) Are you sure it wasn't another player shooting you (also possible).

Like said before, it helps to know what killed you:

Open your character sheet (click your portrait on left side) > Combat Log > Select "Show Losses" and right click/copy those losses into here.

It will show you where you were, what shot you, etc. etc.


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CCP, please fix that damn subscribe button at the top. It's useless if you can't click it to subscribe and have to use the old school version to subscribe to threads.

Yes you have to be in game to show your combat logs.

If it was another player, your loss hasn't been posted on EVE-kill yet.

EDIT:

Neither is any of the losses linked on Battleclinic either.


So what I suspect is:

A.) It wasn't a 0.9 system but something lower - though unlikely cause even 0.5 belt rats would take time to kill you.
B.) It could be another player, though nothing has been posted on the killboards as of yet.
C.) You shot something that you shouldn't have shot, CONCORD tried to make sure you didn't do it again. The 2nd time - cause you were that quick - you loaded grid while still GCC and CONCORD made sure you understand it the 2nd time.

Geez, I am on a really bad streak of being wrong today. Sorry, all.

The lack of killboard posts for the loss, plus the near-instant death (plus 0.9 sec) indicates CONCORD. OP, make sure you didn't try to use actual guns on the asteroid. That is a crime punishable by getting blown up by the police.

I'm going to stop here before I say something more silly.

The Reaper is a good and competitive PvP ship.

Okay it was me! Sorry gaw!

Still not entirely certain. Both of those characters still have 0.0 security status, which indicates that it probably was not a suicide attack. Also, neither of those characters are in True Power. True Power is the NPC corp for Sansha's Nation.

There is an active incursion taking place in Ekura. While 0.9 security systems do not normally have belt rats, during an incursion they might. Therefore I suspect that you were killed by some incursion rats. The other likely possibity is that those players might have tricked you into taking ore from their jet cans, then killed you.