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High-sec miner bumping and "griefing" definition

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Capt Lynch
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#81 - 2012-11-27 17:17:42 UTC
Ladies and gentleman...please drop this...

The main reason for my freak out was this condition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome combined with stressful building work happening at home and other RL incidents during the week...James was just the final straw.

I am 99% certain that I would have seen sense even without Miss Thea's help as a few similar incidents have been caused in the past by bullies at college.

I appeal to both sides...PLEASE drop the subject. I am feeling much better now and I am 100% certain that this should not happen again thanks to Anti-stress techniques I have read up off several psychologist sites on the internet.

One final time to ALL sides...the matter has been dealt with and is over. I am blocking all New Order elements to avoid any further 'incidents' involving them.
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#82 - 2012-11-27 17:18:35 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
I like how you've cut out the only bit that was even remotely indicative of Wookie's condoning Lynch's suicide.


I showed the only part that needs to be shown, he agreed, and said it was "awesome." After that, it's irrelevant. You "bumpers" are out of control.

The bit that Wookie called 'awesome' was the idea of a killboard. Lynch had not said that he was considering suicide when Wookie said 'awesome'.

Anslo wrote:
Quote:
Interesting how we're responsible for the funny things he says to us.

You aren't responsible for what he says. You are responsible for what you do with it, which is harassing.
.

Well, I hope you feel sorry for harassing Disciple of James315 on your blog. I happen to know that he's very upset about it.
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#83 - 2012-11-27 17:20:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Kainotomiu Ronuken
Anslo wrote:
I showed the only part that needs to be shown, he agreed, and said it was "awesome." After that, it's irrelevant. You "bumpers" are out of control.

The bit that Wookie called 'awesome' was the idea of a killboard. Lynch had not said that he was considering suicide when Wookie said 'awesome'.

Anslo wrote:
You aren't responsible for what he says. You are responsible for what you do with it, which is harassing.
.

Well, I hope you feel sorry for harassing Disciple of James315 on your blog. I happen to know that he's very upset about it.

Capt Lynch wrote:
One final time to ALL sides...the matter has been dealt with and is over. I am blocking all New Order elements to avoid any further 'incidents' involving them.


I'm very glad to hear it. Honestly, I wish you'd just taken my advice a little sooner.
Unit CA108AF
Unit Commune
#84 - 2012-11-27 17:23:13 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:

The bit that Wookie called 'awesome' was the idea of a killboard. Lynch had not said that he was considering suicide when Wookie said 'awesome'.


Are you blind???

[ 2012.11.27 12:23:40 ] Capt Lynch > tell james he gets needs to ad a special killboard
[ 2012.11.27 12:23:51 ] Capt Lynch > players he's driven to chronic depression and suicide
[ 2012.11.27 12:23:53 ] Wookie Sith Ottig > lol defiantely
[ 2012.11.27 12:24:08 ] Wookie Sith Ottig > will next i see him on

Bolded it in case you actually are. Jeesh.

Quote:
Well, I hope you feel sorry for harassing Disciple of James315 on your blog. I happen to know that he's very upset about it.


Can't stomach your own medicine? Please....get out.

Anyway, I'm done with this since lynch is done with it. Good luck dude, let me know if you want help or anything. We could totally use more pilots, jerk bumpers or not Smile
SaKoil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2012-11-27 17:26:45 UTC
Unit CA108AF wrote:



Perhaps you should drop the issue as requested? Or is your politicking more important than the people you claim you are worried about?
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#86 - 2012-11-27 17:27:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Kainotomiu Ronuken
Unit CA108AF wrote:
Are you blind???

[ 2012.11.27 12:23:40 ] Capt Lynch > tell james he gets needs to ad a special killboard
[ 2012.11.27 12:23:51 ] Capt Lynch > players he's driven to chronic depression and suicide
[ 2012.11.27 12:23:53 ] Wookie Sith Ottig > lol defiantely
[ 2012.11.27 12:24:08 ] Wookie Sith Ottig > will next i see him on

Bolded it in case you actually are. Jeesh.

I'll just break the conversation down for you.

Capt Lynch says "I think that James should have a killboard for players that have committed suicide due to him."
Wookie says "I agree."

At no point does Capt Lynch say that he planned to commit suicide. At no point does Wookie say that Capt Lynch should commit suicide, or that Capt Lynch committing suicide would be a good thing.

Unit CA108AF wrote:
Quote:
Well, I hope you feel sorry for harassing Disciple of James315 on your blog. I happen to know that he's very upset about it.


Can't stomach your own medicine? Please....get out.

This is known as sarcasm. Disciple of James315 does not care that Anslo posts pictures of him doing silly things, and yet Anslo cares that James posts pictures of Lynch doing silly things. Furthermore, if Anslo cares about James posting pictures of Lynch being stupid, it's pretty hypocritical to post pictures of Disciple himself.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#87 - 2012-11-27 17:54:34 UTC
Unit CA108AF wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:

The bit that Wookie called 'awesome' was the idea of a killboard. Lynch had not said that he was considering suicide when Wookie said 'awesome'.


Are you blind???

[ 2012.11.27 12:23:40 ] Capt Lynch > tell james he gets needs to ad a special killboard
[ 2012.11.27 12:23:51 ] Capt Lynch > players he's driven to chronic depression and suicide
[ 2012.11.27 12:23:53 ] Wookie Sith Ottig > lol defiantely

Bolded it in case you actually are. Jeesh.



So you find it more credible that Wookie read, comprehended, reacted *and* typed a response to the suicide comment in just 2 seconds than the idea that he did the same to the killboard comment in 13 seconds?

On a semi-related note, AnsLOL, you would do well to stay out of this. We've read every Evemail between you and Lynch. We know all about how you tried to use Lynch for your ridiculous anti-new order propaganda and, judging from some of his replies to you, you've done an exceptional job pushing the poor guy towards the limit. The pair of you were going on and on and on like a pair of duracell bunnies. You're so good at upsetting people that you turned a loyal ally into someone so furious with you that he was ready to use a machariel to gank you.

Lynch is a liar. Everything he's said to us that can be verified as a lie has been verified. That means the chances are that he's lying about suicide, especially when he laughed in my face when I spoke to him not as my character, but as the player behind the character, and asked him to talk to his GP, or at least the Samaritans.

He's an attention whore of the highest order - were he smart enough, I'd accuse him of being a mastermind intent on causing enough bad drama to make CCP step in. Fortunately, he's demonstrated he's anything but smart. His last CEO suggested he log in as an alt for a few months and enjoy the game far, far away from any miner bumping. Instead, he insists on being in the one system where we have significant numbers and provokes us further by updating his bio to say he's now a merc. With that killboard? These are not the actions of someone who deserves pity, mercy or sympathy.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CCP Falcon
#88 - 2012-11-28 09:43:00 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
This thread has both moved wildly off topic and become well out of line.

I will offer the following advice:


  • If you feel you have been harassed in EVE Online, file a Petition under the "Rules & Policies" category, and the "Harassment" subcategory.
  • Do not discuss this on the forums, it only leads to issue and threads like this which are venomously dragged off topic.
  • Bumping, as per our current policy, is NOT a bannable offence.
  • Verbal harassment, however, is, and will be treated as such.


Everyone involved here need to take a step back from their keyboard, relax, and realize the gravity of the situation they have created.

If anyone wants to re-open this topic for discourse with the CSM they can feel free to to so, however any further off topic discussion of harassment and venomous attacks will result in people taking long vacations.

Locked.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

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CCP Falcon
#89 - 2012-11-29 15:50:55 UTC
There is now a thread regarding this issue posted here for discussion.

Please read the entire original post of the thread before responding.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3
ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#90 - 2012-11-30 01:05:06 UTC
To those who have had their post edited on this thread, I apologize for working the wrong thread. The was a mistake on my part for which I accept the blame. While most of the edits may have been technically correct a more rational approach should have been used.

Again, my personal apologies.

ISD Tyrozan

Captain

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

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