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I used to like games then i started playing EVE

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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-11-27 11:12:01 UTC
I didn't play any MMO's before EvE. I won't touch any other either :) Tried SWTOR, was shocked how short termed it is (besides, I sucked at pvp as I do in EvE).

In shooters genre I played alot until BF2. After EA ****** up this game with Patch 1.3, I was really pissed and didn't touch any shooters anymore until BF3.

So, EvE was and is still "my game" because I can do what I want, can socialize, can hate people, can go aggro and can lose everything. I cannot reach any endgame ever. I love it. Open end etc.

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Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#22 - 2012-11-27 11:12:46 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I ended up with a warning in STO for saying that I was a cyno pilot from EVE looking for targets in my bio


There's a story about some guy who wrote a "I'm 12 and what is this" post on an MMO forum (either SWTOR or STO, can't remember) and got banned because the Eula states you have to be 13 and over.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#23 - 2012-11-27 11:34:08 UTC
Vilnius Zar wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I ended up with a warning in STO for saying that I was a cyno pilot from EVE looking for targets in my bio


There's a story about some guy who wrote a "I'm 12 and what is this" post on an MMO forum (either SWTOR or STO, can't remember) and got banned because the Eula states you have to be 13 and over.


That was SWTOR. AND a joke.
But what else can you expect from those greedy EAware suits that turn everything they touch to ashes?

I like reading their forums for the unending stream of drama/whining there (which apparently isn´t unfounded, that game is going down the drain since its start) which makes the Eve Online community manly and hardarse by comparison - even at the height of miner extermination. Cool

Anyway, never played a MMO before Eve... never wanted to.
I was interested in World of Darkness IF it would have kept the the general tone; I even recall an interview that theorized about permadeath in WoD but meh...

As for other games, there are a few, usually at least a year or so after initial release when they are cheap and free of bugs; at present The Witcher 2. (Still have to finish Dragonage 1 as well Oops)

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AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#24 - 2012-11-27 11:46:33 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Its because other games don't make you invest so much in them, time and knowledge wise. Thats also why if you quit a.k.a "take a break" from EVE you will come back eventually.


Yeah in my short time in eve ive already been there and done that, its nice ot hear people with the same experiance stepping up. Maybe it is really a part of having children and a demanding full time job, the time i get spare to play id rather be playing something worthwhile where i feel like im making an impact and achieving something
Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#25 - 2012-11-27 12:17:14 UTC
Got exactly same problem. Used to play Lineage 2, Aion and after that i found EVE. Been playing it for over 3 years and i have yet to find game which is at least a tiny bit as fullfilling as EVE. Tried GW2 lately with no big effect. Only shades of grey.

There were some sinngleplayer games tho that gave me some of this "old feeling" back (nw XCOM, Deus EX HR, Mass Effect 3)
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#26 - 2012-11-27 12:28:36 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?



we all get older , you're not the only one, yes there is a lot of shite games these days.

I believe what you are suffering from is burn out, it happens to the best of us, take a break away from gaming for a while. you'll come back refreshed.


What everyone forgets is all the crappy games they played, music they listened to, movies they watched as a kid. So as people become older and look back at their childhood growing up they always seem to think back then - that's when the good stuff was being made damn it! right? - and now everything is a remake or crap or trash or something else that simply doesn't compare to how epic the games they played, music they listened to or movies they watched.

It is just how we remember things. I promise you most of the games you played were crap.



oh i remember alright, and yes,, lots of them where indeed crap lol, but s the years went by the crap mutiplied, i'm sure with that you'll agree yes ? Lol
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#27 - 2012-11-27 12:47:40 UTC
Maybe you are a Graymer just like me. Have a look at this nice article Games Don't Need Saving.

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StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#28 - 2012-11-27 12:56:04 UTC
Eve isnt a game. Eve is real!

All other games are the same. Cost $60 just to get new maps and updated shadows. Once you have played one fps you pretty much played all of them. Capture the flag, Team deathmatch, same stuff since quake. The same can be said for racing, RTS, sim, You name it. They are all pretty much the same. Im surprised people still pay for the same repackaged stuff.

But Eve... Eve is REAL.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.

Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
#29 - 2012-11-27 13:15:11 UTC
I never really bothered with games until a friend showed me Wing Commander. I was blown away. Didn't touch anything after that for a long time. Then another buddy turned me onto MW2 and the multiplayer aspect of gaming. It escalated to UT and PS, and when Sony inevitably ruined that game I stumbled onto EVE for the second time and never looked back. Since then few games have been able to hold my interest. So you are not alone.
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#30 - 2012-11-27 13:19:39 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I agreed with the above posters. Other games simply have no attraction.


This, they are also not challenging at all compared to EVE.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#31 - 2012-11-27 13:32:12 UTC
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
I used to call myself a gamer, id buy most new releases as they came out and spent a large amount of time playing games all across the spectrum from Railroads to Halo. I was proud to call myself a gamer, kept up to date with the gamin industry for years and got genuinely excited about games coming out until recently.

Over the last year the joy has gone. I just cant enjoy anything any more, i stopped buying new releases a few months back because i found id play them for one session then just call it a day and end up with a wasted £35. The only games to have even slightly entertained me recently are Dishonoured, Hotline Miami and Bordelands 2. I fail to even get properly enthusiastic about Mechwarrior and Planetside.

The only game i can enjoy playing now is EVE, im not sure if it the social side or the actuall game but i think EVE has done something to me. Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?


Games are better than ever, its YOU (and me) who changed. EVE is a game for adults (despite what yo see on the GD forums :) ), after you really experience it and the few games like it everything else seems unworthy of attention.

It's like after the 1st time you have sex, "making out" and "heavy petting" was great when that was all you cold get, now it doesn't quite cut the mustard lol.

It's while I rail so hard against the short-sighted carebears who post in this forum, the don't understand that a lot of the things they keep asking for are tings that would water EVE down to the level of.....every damn thing that isn't EVE.


Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-11-27 13:38:42 UTC
I'm completely in the same boat. Sure i can complain about eve as much as the next guy but it's pretty much the only game that holds my attention.

I still like to keep my ear to the round for any new/interesting games (FTL, DayZ, etc.) but i hardly ever buy full price new games anymore.
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-11-27 14:04:53 UTC
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
The only game i can enjoy playing now is EVE, im not sure if it the social side or the actuall game but i think EVE has done something to me. Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?


Aging is part of it, plus your preferences evolve.

For example, I found Diablo 2 very entertaining and spent a lot of time playing it. I was still in college then. This year, when Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2 came out, I realized I had absolutely zero interest on those kinds of games any more. The entire genre left me cold.

Having said that, the last little while I have been enjoying Hitman Absolution. Yes, it's not Blood Money, and it moved closer to Splinter Cell series with some stealth mechanics, and the scoring system is a bloody joke compared to Blood Money's cash rewards and weapon customization. Other things as well. But graphics, storytelling and humor really sold the game for me. I'm about 80% done with it, and so far I'm quite happy with it. Would I have preferred Blood Money, re-done, with these graphics and storytelling instead of what I got? Sure. But this is different, and some of it in a good way. Purist mode is still challenging as hell.

As far as swearing off other games because of any one game? Honestly, I pity people who did that. You missed out on so many amazing games over the years if you did that.
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-11-27 14:12:34 UTC
sounds like someone needs dark souls :)

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#35 - 2012-11-27 14:19:10 UTC

Given the length of my history with EVE and all the stuff I've done, I'm just going to agree.

Writing a post about it would make everyone TL;DR Lol

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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2012-11-27 14:35:23 UTC  |  Edited by: highonpop
If it weren't for other games, I would have quit eve a long time ago. I have to have some battlefield every now and then or I go crazy. EVE can become a bit of a grind sometimes. Grinding anoms for isk, staring at rocks, or getting in the same fleets over and over.


eve can get stale if you're not careful

FC, what do?

Norian Lonark
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-11-27 14:45:14 UTC
I have to agree I used to play a lot of different games, and now mostly its just eve. I think it is all to do with the amount of time you have. I dont have lots and lots of spare time, so if I have an hour or two to play a game in the evening, then it always ends up being EVE.

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Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-11-27 15:01:17 UTC
Same here, at least for MMOs, I used to be that person who tried out every "big" stuff that came out right on it's first day, just to get that "leverage". I'm not quite sure if it's a good thing though since everytime I tried playing another MMO it's either gets boring pretty fast, feels like it was made for 13 year olds or in short totally unattractive.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-11-27 15:18:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
I find EVE is an incredibly unique jewel amongst games. First of all, for me personally, I'm a sci-fi fan from way back. When I was a kid, I used to transpose the Dungeons & Dragons rules onto a spaceship game I designed, and had a stack of cool starship designs myself that I'd draw on graphics paper and written up stats and abilities for them. I've never had friends who were in to the same stuff as me - actually, as an autistic kid, I never really had many friends at all, but it didn't matter cuz I had my game.

I haven't been capable of changing much in the way of socialisation, that is, until the internet came along. Because of social networking online, I've been able to develop a social life that I'm just not capable of in "the flesh". Sure I've got a very small circle of very good friends, and I've even been able to hold down relationships with girls occasionally, but I'm not really interested in that anymore. The greatest achievement of my life, the ability to interact with other people on a social level without having to make eye contact and still actually have legitimate social discourse, was made possible because of the internet.

And now the game I created for myself as a kid, using dice and self-written rulebooks and paper, is here on the internet, where I'm kinda making more friends. Now don't get me wrong, I do have a real world life - it's taken a while to establish myself a bit of a niche (which was made difficult by my developmental shortcomings and the fact that I've moved more times than I can count therefore never been able to build myself up in one geophysical location). I'm currently studying journalism via online correspondence (which is yet another way the internet has saved my ****), and I intend to work in investigative journalism when I'm through. I'll be looking for my first internship this coming year, which with my grades thus far won't be too hard.

But this game is my downtime. This game is my real world when the real real world isn't important. This game is an alternate reality, and in a sense, for me personally, it's kinda become my primary reality, and everything I do in the other reality, studying and working, is done out of necessity only.

But I live in EVE. Not because I have no life or friends, though, but because it's where I choose to be. CCP have created something that I've always wanted. I really couldn't ask for anything more. And I really don't. My life is satisfied, and I will die a happy man even if nothing else ever comes my way.

Here, the internet combines with my love of the science fiction fantasy that I've always been living already, in between doing what's necessary with my life. I do play other games, though - I love Halo and Mass Effect (though more for the stories than the gameplay), Forza Motorsport (the only car collection I'll ever need - I'm easily satisfied), and Fallout are my primaries. I love air combat simulators, too - I wanted to be a fighter pilot growing up. I got the grades to go to ADFA, but my developmental issues kept me from getting in.

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Reicine Ceer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-11-27 15:30:28 UTC
Agreed. What follows is needless tl;dr reminiscence.

I'm 30.

Brought up on computer games, starting with the epic Manic Miner on the ZX Spectrum. This game was infuriatingly addictive! At one point, my dad got the speccy one of those external drives (similar to a zip drive i suppose) and lo, it was good.
As the years fell off the calendar, the ol' computron was replaced by a stunningly powerful workhorse known as the Amiga 500. D-Paint IV, anyone? Blink A trillion floppy disks accompanied it, and it was perhaps another 5 years or so before i realised that people paid for games, and that they came in their very own boxes.
The '500 was eventually replaced by the 1200 (OMFG! Seven hundred more... somethings!!) and by this time my gaming career had seen me spend almost unacceptably long periods of time playing Gods, Street Fighter II, Banshee, The Settlers, Cannon Fodder, Tanx, and perhaps several dozen more. "Distracting" was putting it mildly.
At this point I believe my parents thought there was real danger of me becoming some sort of limp-wristed shut in, hissing at natural light in a Golem-like manner. I was churning through school and fiction books at a prodigious rate, and these new "Home Computers" that people were buying up were just for doing the accounts on anyways, and why bother worrying, ey? Our new 'PC' was bought about a month before the bottom fell out the market, during a time where it was cheaper to buy gold than it was to buy memory for your computer. Needless to say, Father was not impressed when this happened, but it didn't matter to me in the slightest. I had a new platform with which to play games on (even at a young age, i tended to look down on consoles as kiddy toys).
Command & Conquer. Dear god, what a goldmine that was. I lost *days* to that blasted game. I perfected the tank rush without having heard of the concept, and when Red Alert was released with a map editor, my friend and i would spend long periods of time carving battlefields to fight in, and writing up short fiction to go with it ("Good evening commander! The enemy lies on an island close to where your MCU is deployed... wipe them out), silently brush-passing the floppy disk with the new map on it while we were in school. Good times. Also, laughing myself almost-sick when rushing an NPC base with about 50 attack dogs (unit ready unit ready unit ready unit ready unit ready...), not realising that their Flame Towers would incinerate my canine units immediately. Lesson learned, eh!
Ahhhh Duke Nukem, how i missed your misogynistic and surprisingly casual attitude toward exploding women to spawn enemies to shoot! Secret rooms, rocket launchers, quips - this game had it all. I played that game to death, completing it twice. The quicksave button got hammered during the maps in space; utterly terrifying at times. Well, for a young me anyways. The Devastator still has to be one of my favourite FPS weapons ever.
Wait a minute, there's this new game called "Half Life". It has... well, this strange attraction. Again - played to death repeatedly. Never got bored of it.

Quake 2 CTF. At least 400 hours' playtime. Railgun kills from across the map became a speciality.

...ah. Counter-strike. How you mock me with your addictive 5 minute rounds. Those almost-affordable guns (JUST ONE MORE ROUND) and satisfying weapons made for the most intense action i'd ever seen. People were rage machines just waiting to get killed, venting their bitter spleens across the internet in the hopes of insulting your mother. What an age to be alive!

Anyways... I've caught myself rambling. The real point is that i never "got" MMO/MMORPG games until my friend at work said "There is a star wars mmorpg coming out. Play it" - and i did. For years, I played SWG faithfully - creating friendships and stories that were forever memorable. I had a great time - I trained massive, dangerous creatures, fought hugely powerful NPCs with groups of like-minded individuals, laughed at the spam in Corellia and got to grips with a market system that hilariously limited anything you bought to 6000 credits (a measely figure - imagine going to Jita and everything being capped at 1million isk!). I made lasting real world relationships, and occasionally would spend hours fishing with an almost-perfect quality rod i bought for 6000 credits. Then came the Dark Times....a gutting of the game from over 30 professions to something like 7 - the "NGE", or "New Game Enhancements" were a slap in the face to anyone that's ever sat down in front of a computer. Imagine someone hollowing out your pet, replacing it with excrement and seaweed, giving it back to you and looking insulted when you screw your nose up and almost vomit. This was the NGE; this was the end of my SWG life. Finding it hard to deal with (honestly, thinking about it still makes me kinda angry/sad), i asked my longtime friend to meet me on Tatooine. This guy had actually been a friend since Day 2 - saving me from getting messed up by NPCs as i tried circle-strafing a creature, not realising that the weapons were affected by things like range and all that. Anyways, he meets me near the Krayt Graveyard. I give him about half a billion credits, and all of the best 'stuff' i had accumulated over the years. There was *a lot* of it. After this, i /emoted a hug, and then saluted before running off toward a massive Krayt dragon (a huge reptile about a thousand times my size). I kicked it in the face, and died. I /tell my friend, "Goodbye" and uninstall SWG forever.

Meanwhile, another real-life friend of mine has been playing some sort of space-sim for a few years or so, and recommended i give it a go. "EVE Online", eh? Naeh. Looks boring.

...started playing in 2008. Haven't looked back since. Its just better than real life, tbh. Why bother with anything else?