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Mission runner's Tengu after HM nerf / A better mission runner's ship
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Daniel Plain

Doomheim

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#21 - 2012-11-23 01:32:11 UTC

Zan Shiro wrote:

my bad...forgot to mention that would be gusrista cruisers too. htey take more volleys even with the kinetic weakness.

Also with the tengu the damage nerf, now supposedly 10 not 20%....its not end of the world. I don't do eft warrior, I go off actuals. Say I run a sansha mission. EM ammo since I tend to run ammo for rats. But of recent mission running on a BS has me at about 12XX volley. 10% drop (not factoring the explosion changes) means basically 120 dps drop. For simple numbers we'll say 10 shots to kill the BS. Lose 120 per shot so now the rat is basically if need be 1 extra salvo to get back that missing 1200. Not end of the world to me.

But op said missiles bore him. If thats a deciding factor....mach is a nice home to move into. Is one of the more versatile options. I have looked at say vindi and its just not screaming buy me. Not a bad ship all in all, jsut not grabbing me. NM another option I am looking at in time as I round out the final race to x-train (amarr).....but the BS 4 and the t2 guns so far out I am holding off on theorycrafting them. As even in the heart of caldari space I for some strange reason am getting bloods or sansha (or drones) lions share of my missions it could be a very doable option as an alternate running ship since if trend holds, man, I am shooting em weak rats at least 60% of the time.

stopped reading after 'sansha mission'.

I should buy an Ishtar.

nat longshot

The Scope

Gallente Federation

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#22 - 2012-11-24 23:59:19 UTC

I have 2 mach's for mission running on this toon and my alt.

t2 800s and drone bay full of lights and med drones.

i can push 1100 dps out to 74k with guns and drones t2 hail i punch out 1330 dps off one mach at 45k.

So you do the match when runnning both in level 4's. over 2600 dps with guns and drones.

now i belive the mach would be fine in all missions but if your running a shield mach sansha's missions will hurt you just keep range on target and youll be fine. well any em base on mach shields will hurt.

As for the reason i belive the mach will be fine in any missions is the fact 800's can change there dmg type so its good for all mission rats.

Oh and you have the speed to get at range as well i get 625m/s with ab fit youll out run most mission rats other then frigs.

[13:12:18] CCP Punkturis nat longshot you're a cutie.. OH YAH I WIN!!

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Savos Arenn Acetech Systems Likes received: 10	#23 - 2012-11-25 23:07:44 UTC 1 The Mach has always been better than the Tengu

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Paikis Vapour Holdings Likes received: 1,421	#24 - 2012-11-26 01:03:13 UTC 1 nat longshot wrote: i can push 1100 dps out to 74k with guns and drones t2 hail i punch out 1330 dps off one mach at 45k. No. No you don't. Falloff mechanics, learn them.