EVE General Discussion

Are incursions still a cash cow? I haven't done any PVE for ages. Null sec anoms are good but of course you need to be in a position to access them.

null sec income http://theelitist.net/making-money-nullsec

Market trading is very profitable indeed and if you have been in game for a long time you ought to have enough knowledge to capitalise on this with little effort. This is how I make money and although I do it very lazily I tend to make anywhere from 4 to 8 billion a month doing so.

Scamming is profitable and there are many ways to do so, although to be truly successful at it you need to either put in a lot of effort or be imaginative. Spamming dumb contracts in market hubs is just the worst although it works well enough to keep people doing it.

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one very important word: alts

You can look at Incursions, but frankly you need a decent bit of capital and a whole lot of skills to get started in that area.

But they will provide you an income in the 40-60M/hour range. That of course does not include the wait time to get into fleets.
The more times you run Incursions, and run them well, the more remembered you will become within the Incursion channels, and the faster you get picked up in fleets.

But you will need somewhere in the 1 billion ISK range to fly an Incursion ship that will get you into fleets fast.
Sure, you can try to fly a T2 fitted BC, and someone might pick you up, but you will get picked up a lot faster if you bring a Vindi, or Tengu, or whatever your flavour of ship is, armour or shield.

Contrary to what a lot of people are saying, for characters starting out in the game it is very difficult to make ISK (FW LP farming made 3 day old alts hundreds of millions/hour, but that loophole has been closed to a large extent.)

If I was you, and already involved with the FW crowd, I would be asking them how to make money farming the FW sites.
Just because CCP killed the ridiculous loophole does not mean they completely destroyed making money in FW.

You can always become an Agent Of The New Order and scam...er...sell mining permits to highsec miners.....

www.minerbumping.com.

I do PI on 4 different characters. It sucks to setup, but once you have it rolling it's an easy 2bil a month in 0.0/WH.

Once a day to start extractors.
Every two weeks or so 45 minutes to unload customs office.
Once a month setup a contract with Push or Black Frog to move your product out of 0.0 or if in WH wait until a good hole opens to highsec.

I'm actually thinking about making some more PI alts. it's that easy.

Sure there's mercenary work and ransoming. There also savaging wrecks, but on average, you'll probably loose more than you gain unless your playing idiots that fit faction gear.

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Easy button ISK, join NAP train Null Sec, use your passives. If you have datacore research capability, use it. No matter how little it seems to be making. PI has been mentioned. Combine it with NAP train Null Sec, don't do it for the gray hair. Load it up, do it when you remember to. When I was in null I never went beyond belt ratting. Find a systemm nobody was chaining, I put a tractor in utility, looted, reproc'ed and if you had low traffic ISK was decent. I wasn't obligated to a min/ max game session. I just played until I docked up and logged out or got bored and roamed.

Very few pirates make a living at pirating. Some are good enough, but if you don't have a scout alt, how do you know what's likely to come after you?

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