EVE General Discussion

I see the statement made that "hi sec is not perfect sec" quite often.

What if hi sec were perfectly secure?

I mean no pvp of any type and you were completely unable to harm another player while in hi sec unless there was an active war between your corps.

What would the consequences be? Would it impact the players who live out in Null Sec to any significant degree? Would it impact the players who practice piracy in low sec?

I know it would have consequences for those who like to gank miners and freighters etc in hi sec but what other changes would occur?

I am asking this because I want to know, not because I think this is how it should be. I am curious and looking for an answer.

Considering how much stuff dies in empire, the economy would take a nosedive. You'd see some terrible inflation, and not just because mission-running would go unchecked by us belligerent undesirables, but also because war and insurance fees would no longer eat up a good portion of ISK generation.

The high-sec pvpers would leave the game. No, they wouldn't move to null out of necessity. Thus, CCP would lose many thousands of active players, and possibly tens of thousands of active accounts. PLEX prices would skyrocket, not just because of the inflation, but due to increased demand as people roll more alts in order to try and out-compete each other on the market.

Uh, it would be bad. It would be very bad. EVE pretty much operates on the concept of the broken window, and taking that away would destroy it.

M0o would not have been stopped.

I assume that this would also mean that all goods could only be sold for the NPC price, since profiteering certainly hurts my wallet?

Pretty quickly, trade hubs would spring up in lo-sec I suppose.

It would be the death of the game tbh. Eve's economy is the engine that keeps the game running. The great amount of ship and module loss in high sec, is a large part of the fuel that drives it.

Not only that, but it goes against the whole principle the game was built on. That alone means it would never happen.

Then it would have to be removed from the game and be released under a different name… maybe something like “X³” would be appropriate.

The Savior of Highsec James 315, in his infinite patience, has taken the time to answer.

inflation, perhaps a whole lot of it... a lot of tears from people who like to gank the stupid, greedy, ignorant and lazy. then business as usual, with hiseccers/lowseccers/WHers/Nullseccers beginning to campaign/whine about the next thing.

The reality of it is, very few in hisec take the preperations to ward off or stop a gank because it hurts the bottom line to a degree that in the long run its not financially worth it. It only really hurts noobs and the poor. Almost no one fits tank because over the course of your miners career the extra ore gained by that second MLU2 is going to pay for another mining ship +. This is also the reason that so very few mine in low.

Rookie systems could be PvP free zones (wierd in the context of Eve, but helpful)
Hisec is way too big, perhaps if it were much much smaller the NullPvP idea wouldn't affect the economy so disastrously.

This would be horrible for the game and would be a real prejudice for all Eve players. High sec has a huge amount of ships destruction directly influencing industry and trade hubs, removing this would be silly at best and remove players from low/null sec at worst because it would be to much simple to make isk in perfect security.

Criminal actions don't have enough drawbacks and are more often buff indirectly than the other way around, witch is silly for a part of space named "high sec", however completely remove wardecs and other "legal" actions to create pvp would have no sense or positive effects at all.

I'm all for perfect hi sec.

But here are the caveats:

1. NPCs are included in the cease fire, no belt rats, no incursions, no missions in high sec.

2. Asteroids and Ice Belts are also included in the ceasefire, shooting lasers at a rock and eating it like a jar of peanut butter is as hostile as it gets.

3. The only high slot module that can be activated in High Sec will be snowball launchers.