Crime & Punishment

So do you want to Gank?

Do you want to PVP?

Are you going to go after missioners?

It's hard to tell what you want to do.

i am.. true terrible..

Brutix vs Mac ... Mac wins ! ;p

don't know what i've done wrong tho:

Passive targeter [x]
Optimal range [x]
Overheat [x]


Before i could get a 2e salvo off, got jammed by the cops / neuted to death..

Any sugestions ?


This is my own KM, so i assume its ok by the forum mods


2011.10.21 10:01:00

Victim: Spacing Cowboy
Corp: Perkone
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Brutix
System: Mitsolen
Security: 0.6
Damage Taken: 10304

Involved parties:

Name: CONCORD Police Commander / CONCORD (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 10304

Destroyed items:

Heavy Neutron Blaster I, Qty: 4
Cargo Scanner I
Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 237
Scan Resolution
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I, Qty: 2
Suppressed Targeting System I

Dropped items:

Ship Scanner I
Acolyte I, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay)
Heavy Neutron Blaster I, Qty: 3
Sensor Booster I
Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 316
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I, Qty: 2

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or tempest 1400's with gyros in the low.,The meta 1 and 2 1400's are the cheapest

tempest is the best but a more expensive option

You probably need all relevant gunnery skills at lv5 what ever option you choose, like surgical strike,sharpshooter

Start with untanked macks and hulks to get into it. you can passively target them and then use a ship scanner to check the set up.

True, i have terrible gunnery skills
<-- caldari missile slinger, gunnery at 5, suports at 2 or 3 for now

I had the cargo scanner if i found a hauler first ( but the brutix proved to slow in that fit
to get in optimal on a gate ) so i went to a ice-field after.

Will have a look at a tempest, don't care so much for cost/profit, i just want to
kill some stuff & fast easy while losing the sec status.
Will need to train some skill for that tho, so be it. ( can't fly tempest )

( going for pods is a bit to fast ;p ) but i might go for that anyway with some rocket boat

The ship scanner i had also, maybe ( proberly ) made the mistake of going for a mac with
2x EM-resist fitted.. bha, should have known better :) :) :)
Was maybe a bit to trigger-happy to find a better target

Technical speaking , could i just pull the same with a HAM drake ??
( im all 5'se in missile's )

EDIT , thanks for the tips, after work ill have another go at losing sec status.
Been playing this game for 2 years now, never ventured into this..
In so.. i will not stop until im flashy/bored

Just find another caldari person and go do stuff in recons.... 2 of you can neutralize 2-4 of them...

Do it the caldari way... irritate the **** out of them.

Smarty attack will be my final goodby from highsec :p
Ive been sadomised by that before, time to pass on the message of love :)

The carebear is strong with me, figurs.. Take brutix... Explode ship.. Harvest hatemail..

And all i get is a pissed off concord and would be victem pissing his pants of laughter.

( i would, hell, i did when ganks failed on me )

Here's my recommendation:

it takes killing just 6 pods in jita to go to -10.

1. buy 6 thrashers, 42 meta-2/3 250mm arties, 12 gyrostab 1s, 12 sensor boosters and scan resolution scripts, 42 rounds fleet emp S (always remember to group guns)
2) with a friend or on a second account in fleet, check perimeter gate in a shuttle or other unthreatening ship. put the shuttle about 4k-5k away from a afk pod, there always seem to be 2 or 3 of them there.
3) undock in thrasher, warp to alt at 0km, activate guns and sensor boosters on the fly, click the target pod as soon as your warp stops. hit enter as fast as possible when the warning comes up.
4) enjoy the sec status drop
5) warp out before others target you and pop your pod :)

couple other tips from the times I've done it with alts:
1) bottom station in jita has a cloning facility and never any camps on the undock, easier to get the flasy red thrasher out of there without being popped on the undock, and if you do get podded by some anti-pirate wanker, you're right back at a cloning station with all your ganking stuff
2) regardless where you go, make an instant-undock-safe just in case.
3) buy in station 4-4, courier contract your gank-ships to the station of your choice. It adds humor that some of the bears that do those courier contracts may be the ones you pop on the gate later on :)
4) have eveboard.com up in a browser window. when you need to make a choice between 2 pod targets, ALWAYS pick the one that has higher value implants... it's just the right thing to do.

What are you doing wasting a perfectly good Brutix on a Retriever? A Catalyst can take out retrievers, no need for a Brutix.

As for only getting two shots off in 0.6, sounds like you got killed by a pre-set CONCORD trap. You can prime CONCORD in your belt / location with a throwaway alt. Use the alt to shoot your ship, CONCORD comes to blow up said ship, CONCORD hangs around and the delay for their response is nullified in that area while they are there. They will respond nearly instantly.

Make sure CONCORD is on your overview and check for them before engaging. If someone is doing this, you can do it to them with your own throwaway alt. Prime CONCORD somewhere else within that system, it will remove CONCORD from their area.

Regarding the passive targeter, pretty sure you activate the mod then click overview, dont use ctrl click or the target button on the overview, or you can activate the mod and click in space.

Suicide yanking doesn't make you lose your carebear status but have fun anyway.