EVE General Discussion

I'm not a ganker, but I do side with them in this argument. Part of EVE is that you cannot stop learning, the day you get complacent, you get blown up.

I was talking to a corpy today about something like this. He had just fallen for the margin trading scam, and was cussing himself for not seeing how obvious a scam it was, but he was playing while he was tired and not paying proper attention, just saw a large profit to be made.

EVE is a game of awareness, intelligence, and ruthlessness. If you lack any one of these traits, you will not excel here(I say this as someone who like to get drunk and fly around in expensive ships cause its funny to lose a billion isk to a drunken escapade)

I think CCP themselves said it best.

Thank you for that. I was not aware that the OP was anything other than a noob who wanted some advice.

Firstly, I feel that almost (euphemism) every single thread started in GD with a view to getting help is utterly flamed, no matter the experience of the individual who started it. You all talk about EVE taking your cookie and laughing at you. Very well, but it would be nice if those asking for assistance were given some. Maybe let's take their cookie and pat them on the head for thinking they could have a cookie? That's all.

Secondly, yes, the OP needs to do some googling and research etc, but one would rather expect the EVE forums to be a good place to ask for ideas.

Thirdly, I rather read the OP's post as being 'how can I reduce the threat of being ganked' rather than 'nullify'. Men have a way of being overdramatic in their use of vocab. But then ASS-U-ME & etc. But thank you for the provision of a definition.

I am afraid that this thread and its responses rather saw the blunt end of my indignance as I am somewhat fed up of GD threads being the same old 'What if/How do I/What do I need to do if....' and 'STFU Carebear/Null-seccers suck/Hi-seccers suck/if you don't know what to do then you should BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN.'

I don't side with the gankers, nor do I side with fools who fly around with 50 plex's in cargo.

I do think that people need to learn how to play and all this, and "the borderline common knowledge" being given here, is part of that.

I don't really care if the OP's, or some of the posters here, have "hidden agendas". I just like seeing constructive suggestions on how to avoid getting ganked.

Nothing overly dramatic about it, and i'm not assuming, or suggesting its open to interpretation. Read the title of the thread.

You have to choose. General Discussion Online is full of hard and meaningful choices, like do you go with the 30billion isk freighter or the 10 taloses ....

Here's a good link to the evelopedia

Avoiding cargo scans

As someone who IRL works in the field you metioned, the guy walking around with that kind of cash even in the middle of a police station is basically a fool. IRL as in EVE, we provide CONSEQUENCES, not protection (you want "protection", carry a gun or hire private security).

The mindset you display isn't just a game thing. a few years ago where I'm from we instituted an awareness program to help people help us curb vehicle burglary problems.

The result, most people listend and the burglary rates went down, but a vocal minority screamed "you're just blaming the victims" and "police should protect our property even when we're stupid enough to leave expensive lap tops and such in plain view" (paraphrasing that 2nd one lol). In EVE, as in real life, some people would rather stick to a utopian view than conform to actual reality.

The advice in this thread is mostly good. However, the advice about avoiding systems where freighter ganking is happening is impossible. Add Uedama and Niarja to your avoidance list and make a route going anywhere. See the problem?

This. It's a testament to madness, really, and punishing that is something you can never close the door on.