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EVE Richness Metric

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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#41 - 2012-11-23 18:48:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ocih
Tul Breetai wrote:
Umm, derp? Only true if the majority of EVE pilots are lower class peasants in a feudal society... but are they?

Only in Amarr.


Interesting, though a little old.

I've never looked up stats, just from people I talked to over the years I have always said the average guy has 400 mill. I actually project that to be higher now.

I have around 8 billion liquid right now. My assets could be sold and that would sit around 50 billion and most of my assets are in demand assets so I could sell them to buyers for that much. I'm not uber rich but again, just talking I am above the wealth of most I talk to.

I'm not Amarr though. I'm Khanid.
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#42 - 2012-11-23 18:49:19 UTC
Demolishar wrote:
Tul Breetai wrote:
Umm, derp? Only true if the majority of EVE pilots are lower class peasants in a feudal society... but are they?

Only in Amarr.


Those stats are just for wallet ISK rather than including assets as well.



Excellent point. But Amarr has a lot of peasants. Seriously.

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#43 - 2012-11-23 18:50:53 UTC
Tul Breetai wrote:
Demolishar wrote:
Tul Breetai wrote:
Umm, derp? Only true if the majority of EVE pilots are lower class peasants in a feudal society... but are they?

Only in Amarr.


Those stats are just for wallet ISK rather than including assets as well.



Excellent point. But Amarr has a lot of peasants. Seriously.


Further point: those stats are per CHARACTER, not per player.
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#44 - 2012-11-23 18:53:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tul Breetai
Demolishar wrote:
Tul Breetai wrote:
Demolishar wrote:
Tul Breetai wrote:
Umm, derp? Only true if the majority of EVE pilots are lower class peasants in a feudal society... but are they?

Only in Amarr.


Those stats are just for wallet ISK rather than including assets as well.



Excellent point. But Amarr has a lot of peasants. Seriously.


Further point: those stats are per CHARACTER, not per player.



On second thought, I suppose that's a valid point as well.P

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#45 - 2012-11-23 18:55:51 UTC
Tul Breetai wrote:


I would point out that costs are based on PER CHARACTER, and not PER PLAYER. Just because you own both characters doesn't mean you get a buy-1-get-1 on assets...


If I had 1 billion on my alt, and 1 billion on my main, I'd have 2 billion. It doesn't matter what I spend it on. There are literally millions of characters with 5000 isk and 56000 SP out there, should they be counted too?
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#46 - 2012-11-23 18:58:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Tul Breetai
Demolishar wrote:
Tul Breetai wrote:


I would point out that costs are based on PER CHARACTER, and not PER PLAYER. Just because you own both characters doesn't mean you get a buy-1-get-1 on assets...


If I had 1 billion on my alt, and 1 billion on my main, I'd have 2 billion. It doesn't matter what I spend it on. There are literally millions of characters with 5000 isk and 56000 SP out there, should they be counted too?


What are you talking about, that's not what I posted!P

But really, what does sp have to do with anything?

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Joneleth Rein
#47 - 2012-11-23 19:56:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Joneleth Rein
Tul Breetai wrote:
Demolishar wrote:
Tul Breetai wrote:


I would point out that costs are based on PER CHARACTER, and not PER PLAYER. Just because you own both characters doesn't mean you get a buy-1-get-1 on assets...


If I had 1 billion on my alt, and 1 billion on my main, I'd have 2 billion. It doesn't matter what I spend it on. There are literally millions of characters with 5000 isk and 56000 SP out there, should they be counted too?


What are you talking about, that's not what I posted!P

But really, what does sp have to do with anything?



56k are a character's starting skill points...

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#48 - 2012-11-23 20:00:14 UTC
class is measured by the need to work, not wealth

if you are the sort of person scrounging a living from doing work you are lower class regardless of how much of a living you have scrounged

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#49 - 2012-11-23 20:24:00 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
class is measured by the need to work, not wealth

if you are the sort of person scrounging a living from doing work you are lower class regardless of how much of a living you have scrounged


So by your standards pretty much everyone who pays by sub rather than PLEX and only flies T1 ships - is the aristocracy?
YoYo NickyYo
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-11-24 00:10:29 UTC
Demolishar wrote:
How's this for a metric:

If you measure your wealth in integer M, you're poor.
If you measure your wealth in integer B, you're middle class.
If you measure your wealth in integer T, you're rich.

Would y'all say that's accurate?


no?

Rich is relative to your personal opinion, one person might define rich as 30 bil, another 300 bil, does not mean either is right or wrong....
This of course means your metric is only meaningful or useful to you....Cool


I am not, nor will I ever be...Nicky Yo.... The question you should ask is.....When will they release the NICKY!
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#51 - 2012-11-24 00:14:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Fon Revedhort
Richness is measured by how much you can give to the others rather than how much you have yourself. And it's not even about isk only.

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.
Marvin Narville
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-11-24 02:13:50 UTC
Clearly this entire thing is a poorly executed stealth attempt by the goons to put everyone else in EvE on a food stamp program.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#53 - 2012-11-24 02:28:15 UTC
oniplE wrote:
Demolishar wrote:
How's this for a metric:

If you measure your wealth in integer M, you're poor.
If you measure your wealth in integer B, you're middle class.
If you measure your wealth in integer T, you're rich.

Would y'all say that's accurate?

So if have 1.000.000 M i'm poor, 1.000 B i'm middle class and 1 T i'm rich?


I see what you did there.

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Jiska Ensa
Estrale Frontiers
#54 - 2012-11-24 03:18:17 UTC
There was a time about a year ago when there wasn't a single ship I could fly that I couldn't replace 10 times over. I felt very rich.

Then I trained capitals and the illusion was gone :(

"Richness" is just a mind state. A noob given 20 million isk by some generous player typically feels very rich. I was once that noob and I had a great time blowing it all on crap-fit frigates :)
Elliot Vodka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-11-24 03:26:20 UTC
DeBingJos wrote:
It's not about the wallet, it's about the assets.

Its about the assets you can afford to replace. ;)

Why is it that people think this game is for everyone?A better question would be "Why do some people think this game is only for them?"
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2012-11-24 03:37:23 UTC
"Rich" is when you have more than enough isk to do what you want to do in the game.
Any other definition is pointless.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-11-24 03:46:39 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"Rich" is when you have more than enough isk to do what you want to do in the game.
Any other definition is pointless.


I didn't even read your post, but I saw you're close to 1337 likes.
Shamus O'Reilly
Candy Cabal
#58 - 2012-11-24 03:47:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Shamus O'Reilly
<--- and corp currently sitting on the hundred mil category crossing a bil (minus personal wallets) and lets think.... its because we buy **** and improve on what we have already established... if we didnt do this we'd all be multibillionaires easily. and i agree 100% to what james just said above me

Edit: wasnt thinking assets with what i just said. Cool

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Alotta Baggage
Radioactive Lobster Shipping
#59 - 2012-11-24 03:49:26 UTC
Barakach wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"Rich" is when you have more than enough isk to do what you want to do in the game.
Any other definition is pointless.


I didn't even read your post, but I saw you're close to 1337 likes.


That's a special time in a poster's life....
Frying Doom
#60 - 2012-11-24 03:51:17 UTC
I feel so poor after reading this thread

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!