Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Maybe if you could post about features as well, but nah… it'll never catch on.

Since you didn't address the issue of them making any less money or the issue of bypassing mechanics, no, of course you didn't.

What I choose not to quote was a bunch of misinformation and misunderstandings about how PLEX work, because there was no need to perpetuate that nonsense.

…but it would make your account better compared other accounts simply because you paid money for it, hence P2W.

If you want to train two characters as once, use the mechanics for it: get a second account.
If you want to have two high-SP characters on one account, use the mechanics for it: transfer a character from one account to the other.

Lol, Eve is not a free to play game. A full account is better than a trial one because you're paying for it and I see no problem with that. Once again I'm not saying that this feature is needed. But we are not talking about any unfair advantage, golden ammo or SP for money.
I still fail to see how this solution, which I agree would differentiate that kind of account from a regular one, would make your EVE experience more unfair. I mean, to me it's not worse than some dude multiboxing 15 hulk using a multiboxing software or running sleeper plex with 4 accounts.

Haha, this is where good ideas go to die.

Anyways, it would be a good way to diversify and have a more dynamic gaming experience whilst saving money.

Oh well, it was a fun discusion while it lasted... Thanks all for the comments, i will include them in my report...

The fact we can only train one at atime is a utter sham and you want to prenerf it twice?

christ this player base...

Why is it 'pay to win'? Isn't it the same as having an alt account, just less flexible?

tl;dr: This is not a pay to win (directly) and seems like a good idea at first. but it leads to pay to win like situations and general bad balance.


I like the idea of being able to train up side accounts for r&d, cyno alts, empire hauling alt etc. and I've played around with doing this a few times (with r&d agents). Adding an account management feature to do it at reduced price would definitely make me happy and I'd jump on it.

As for being pay too win... well it's complicated but I'd say not directly. It's technically more of discount similar to the discounts you get for paying by the year instead of monthly or the power of two sale that went about. The pay to win term while having some clear cases (eg. gold ammo) has very many borderline cases or cases of accepted pay to win and I'd say this fits in here.


The problem is it would lead to making another pay to win borderline case much worse than it currently is.

Paying for characters is a pay to win. BUT it is accepted in eve because of how common it is in games regardless of weather it's allowed or not, having it done via GTC or ISK prevents people from cashing out their game time into real cash and drives away some of the industry that follows that sort of game. It's generally overall good for health of eve to have a legit way to pay for characters even if it is pay to win.


With this change training up a characters for selling would be 3 times easier than it currently is thanks to reduced cost. Unfortunately my crystal ball is broken so I can't predict what would happen to an eve where creating characters for selling was incredibly overpowered but I do not see it being in anyway good.

Getting images of a future where you can either spend 6 months playing the game and learning slowly or spend the same in GTC's to buy a 1.5 year old character that thx to min maxing, implants and professional skill plans has the SP you wouldn't have till you've been playing for 2 years. Does not sound good in my opinion.


While the bonus to training hauler/r&d/manufacturing/cyno alts would be nice the rampant abuse of selling accounts via this would not be nice.