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$4.99 / mo Skill Queue

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Relgast
Losi Laboratories
#1 - 2012-11-23 19:59:35 UTC
This is a thought i have had, and i thought i would mention it and see what other people thought of it...

Some people dont want multiple accounts, with millions of toons to manage... What they want is to train their 3 toons all at once, rather than just being able to train one at a time..

What if CCP offered a $4.99/mo "Additional Skill Queue" addon to your account... Where for each addon, you could train an additional character at a time.

What do you guys think? Would you do it? Would this be a decent revenue stream for CCP?

Gast
Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#2 - 2012-11-23 20:01:31 UTC
Relgast wrote:
This is a thought i have had, and i thought i would mention it and see what other people thought of it...

Some people dont want multiple accounts, with millions of toons to manage... What they want is to train their 3 toons all at once, rather than just being able to train one at a time..

What if CCP offered a $4.99/mo "Additional Skill Queue" addon to your account... Where for each addon, you could train an additional character at a time.

What do you guys think? Would you do it? Would this be a decent revenue stream for CCP?

Gast



Great way to make a ton of isk selling characters

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2012-11-23 20:02:31 UTC
No its a pay to win and we have zero interest in it. We have already burned down one statue to stop this kind of thing creeping into this game.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2012-11-23 20:03:37 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
Great way to make a ton of isk selling characters
Great way to make character sales yield zero ISK.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#5 - 2012-11-23 20:06:24 UTC
Wait, you're serious...... hahahahahaha

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Relgast
Losi Laboratories
#6 - 2012-11-23 20:07:10 UTC
What if the "additional queues" would train at 50% speed or something like that... so its not such a pay to win...
blake fallout
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-11-23 20:09:53 UTC
Relgast wrote:
What if the "additional queues" would train at 50% speed or something like that... so its not such a pay to win...



Asked befour - And .... Nothing Happened ..... So.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-11-23 20:10:05 UTC
Relgast wrote:
What if the "additional queues" would train at 50% speed or something like that... so its not such a pay to win...


Its still pay to win and thus, not welcome in this game.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#9 - 2012-11-23 20:13:38 UTC
Its an interesting idea but to be honest one account = one character can train has been a part of eve since its creation, messing with that formula now is a good way to lose a lot of players in a big hurry.

Plus as people have said it reeks of pay to win, somrthing which isnt very popular around here at all.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

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Generals4
#10 - 2012-11-23 20:14:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Generals4
baltec1 wrote:
Relgast wrote:
What if the "additional queues" would train at 50% speed or something like that... so its not such a pay to win...


Its still pay to win and thus, not welcome in this game.


You would be correct if it were pay to win to begin with. Allowing you to train two toons on the same account for an extra 5$ is as much pay to win as being able to train two characters for an extra 15$ (creating a new char). In the first case you have the limitation you can't use both toons simultanously and pay less and that's where the difference ends. So if that's pay to win you better start whining about having multiple accounts because it's pay to win too.

This said this idea won't ever be implemented because it's bad business for CCP.

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#11 - 2012-11-23 20:15:57 UTC
bad idea. 1/10

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Relgast
Losi Laboratories
#12 - 2012-11-23 20:18:27 UTC
I understand the fear of "pay to win", i think everyone agrees that concept is bad... However, dont we already have that? If you want a top end char, buy some plex, sell for isk, buy toon = win.

How would this kind of program be any different?
Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#13 - 2012-11-23 20:19:26 UTC
Generals4 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Relgast wrote:
What if the "additional queues" would train at 50% speed or something like that... so its not such a pay to win...


Its still pay to win and thus, not welcome in this game.


You would be correct if it were pay to win to begin with. Allowing you to train two toons on the same account for an extra 5$ is as much pay to win as being able to train two characters for an extra 15$ (creating a new char). In the first case you have the limitation you can't use both toons simultanously and pay less and that's where the difference ends. So if that's pay to win you better start whining about having multiple accounts because it's pay to win too.

This said this idea won't ever be implemented because it's bad business for CCP.

Probably not empty quoting.

"Of course you would choose the fun, but you don't lead a relevant entity which has allies." - Colonel Xaven
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-11-23 20:20:03 UTC
5$ is way too cheap for such an advantage. It should be at least double that per additional training character.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#15 - 2012-11-23 20:21:06 UTC
Nah, pointless.
David Campbell
Gallente Militia War Supplies
#16 - 2012-11-23 20:21:15 UTC
If that feature was available for a fee a bit lower than the cost of an other account, I don't see how this would fall under the "pay 2 win" category. Remember that you can't be logged in 2 characters on the same account at the same time. But 4.99$ a month is too low. For it to be fair it should be at least around 20€ (24$).
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#17 - 2012-11-23 20:24:17 UTC
Relgast wrote:
I understand the fear of "pay to win", i think everyone agrees that concept is bad... However, dont we already have that? If you want a top end char, buy some plex, sell for isk, buy toon = win.

How would this kind of program be any different?


Because someone has had to train that character to that level using the one account = one character training model before you can buy it, I admit its a pretty fine distinction but it is there.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome
Generals4
#18 - 2012-11-23 20:24:35 UTC
David Campbell wrote:
If that feature was available for a fee a bit lower than the cost of an other account, I don't see how this would fall under the "pay 2 win" category. Remember that you can't be logged in 2 characters on the same account at the same time. But 4.99$ a month is too low. For it to be fair it should be at least around 20€ (24$).


Why would anyone in his right mind pay 20€ to train skills on a toon he can't use while using his main when he could just get a new account and train skills for 15€ a month and be able to multibox.

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _
Relgast
Losi Laboratories
#19 - 2012-11-23 20:26:44 UTC
I came up with the $4.99 based on:

$15/mo get your 1 skill queue and 3 char slots

so, a third of that would get you a queue but no additional char slots... (sorry i dont know conversions to the other currencies)

Sounds like the value of a skill queue is "most" of the value of the account, based on what i am reading here...
Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#20 - 2012-11-23 20:30:17 UTC
$4.99 for an additional slot, or $14.99 per toon.

Mmmmmmmm, let me think what they'd rather do...
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