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How Hard is it to join a major Nullsec Alliance/ elite PvP gang
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Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#61 - 2012-11-23 10:40:11 UTC
The question shouldn't be "how hard is it to get in RANDOM 0.0 corp/ally".
The question should be "how hard is it to get in the 0.0 corp/ally YOU LIKE".

Not as they differ by much. Most of them are all the same **** ;). But there are some slight differences which might be important to you.

To get in a random 0.0 corp/ally is pritty easy. You lose nothing if you just pick a corp via DOTLAN and try to applay. Worst that can happen is no answare. To get into a 0.0 corp/ally you like (ak you read their manifests) might be a bit harder. But nothing stops you from simply do a request. You might have luck to be invited, you might get some infos what is needed to join.

But do NOT do the request with your main acc! :)
Some 0.0 corps/allys (or just some of their members) are damn idiots and "blacklist" you for the next gang/scam!!!!!
Same reason noone posts here with his main chars but only forum-troll-alts.

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!
octahexx Charante
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2012-11-23 11:33:13 UTC
You dont actually have to have a green kb you just have to have a kb showing you actually undock for pvp.
It helps if you know how to aling hold on gates and what jumpbridges are.

If you dont have any pvp exp join RvB,actually join them even if arent going to null and want to try pvp,its pretty addictive and nonstop fun most people can afford (frigs destroyers and cruiser).

And this: -join their in game public channel, ask some director and have a talk with them.

I think the api and paranoia usually comes the closer to somekind of "inner core" your getting and the isk and drama, its not actually related to how good a corp is in any way

It can also be a warning sign of bittervet circle that dont really want new members but they want to buffer their numbers for some reason,these corps can en up being black holes for any social interaction and very very boring empty halls of days gone by.

I guess it depends of what you are looking for.
Bi0sun
Doomheim
#63 - 2012-11-23 12:47:25 UTC
test alliance is full of kids and extremely immature, i have a spy in there and jee, can barely login to spy when needed, your know what i mean if you listen to their comes and read their chat

if you want to be a F1 key monkey, fighting in 95% of tidi all the time, join the goons, otherwise have some pride and dont be a goon, and try to help save eve and stop the massive blobs, have a spy in there to, jee its terrible.

the new N3 coalition is pretty good, i.e ncdot, nulli, etc,

go in faction war some a few weeks get some kills registered on the killboards

i wouldn't give out full api, as the can see everything, emails, etc. Full api key is not required, all they should need to know is your skill points, your skills, and other characters on that account

dont be scammed, dont pay isk to join, guarantee its a scam

good luck
Kurt Saken
Star Cluster Wanderer
#64 - 2012-11-23 13:04:57 UTC
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
It's extremely easy. Simply post a thread in the recruitment forums and watch the offers come in. I did this myself, and even though I'm a 2 million skillpoint noob. I must of had about 20 invites.



It is extremely easy to join a band of newbie milkers too, and when the problems start (a corp with many newbies will be targeted by real PVPers eventually), they all run like the nullbears they are.
Matarella
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#65 - 2012-11-23 13:21:12 UTC
GJ OP. You just openly showed you are a morron on the forums. Any corp that has any kind of security checking will find this thread and know right away they need to turn you down.

Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#66 - 2012-11-23 13:21:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Ka'Narlist
I'm wondering how many of those people who say that you need so many skillpoints or kills to join a 0 sec corp and that all corps which take you anyways are just a bunch of noobs have tried to join one.

There acctually are corps or allis which handle it that way but they are the ones that are loosing their space now on a major scale.

Take a look on the HBC on the other side. Most corps won't care if you have 50M SP with hundreds of kills on your killboard (as if a killboard would say anything at all about you besides that you are doing PVP), or if you are a week old newb with no experience in anything.
The only thing that matters is that you are willing to fit in and try you best to have fun with the rest.

AFAIK the CFC handles it the same and thats why both of them are so successfull.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#67 - 2012-11-23 13:24:07 UTC
Matarella wrote:
GJ OP. You just openly showed you are a morron on the forums. Any corp that has any kind of security checking will find this thread and know right away they need to turn you down.





Hey thanks for this. Ive learned my lesson and ill never speak again
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Roderick Grey
Koenigsbergers
#68 - 2012-11-23 13:59:39 UTC
Matarella wrote:
GJ OP. You just openly showed you are a morron on the forums. Any corp that has any kind of security checking will find this thread and know right away they need to turn you down.



Did somebody from SCDOT that ISN'T in Black Aces just call somebody stupid?

Lol, alright m8.

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#69 - 2012-11-23 14:13:41 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:


The whole point is that people do want to PvP but cannot get in without a lot of stipulations.


What you don't seem to understand is that those stipulations are not there to make your life difficult personally. You might join a nullsec alliance and be expected next week to light a cyno for 40 billion worth of capital ships. We kind of want to make sure you're not going to be on the phone to our enemies and light said cyno in a bubble off a planet and have all your buddies jump in and murder the capitals. You know. Stuff like that.

The API requirements are the only form of protection a recruiting alliance has - and even then it's not a good one because a determined person just makes a different account and trains it up, and gets in anyway. Every alliance worth spying on has at least one spy in it. But we'd like to keep out at least the very bad ones.

Of course there are corps and alliances with a lot less to lose, and the barrier to entry is proportionally lower. There are corps out there who have recruited 3 day old characters, because the recruiters are lazy, because the alliance pays a reward for the number of people recruited and is too lazy to check quality, etc. Those alliances usually suck and don't exist for very long precisely because they're full of people who don't know what they're doing and people trying to wreak havoc. But it's a start.

So it's very easy to get into a nullsec alliance. But if you want to aim for the "top" and you want to get in right away, well, too bad. Who the hell are you? Prove yourself first, grasshopper.
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2012-11-23 14:30:51 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:


Rooks and Kings



apparently have to be pretty 1337 to be allowed in, and probably someone would need to vouch for you from them, or at least i would hope so.

TunDraGon ~ Low sec piracy since 2003 ~ Youtube ~ Join Us
valerydarcy
Doomheim
#71 - 2012-11-23 14:37:13 UTC
we make you do "the gauntlet" from First Knight.

If you're Richard Gere, youll be ok.

Post with your main™
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#72 - 2012-11-23 15:08:16 UTC
oh and to get into tundragon, you need:

-full API of all characters

and either of the following:

-vouch from a member of tundragon

or

-have a chat with us for a decent length of time on coms
-have tundragon as the only low/null pvp corp any of your characters are involved in.

TunDraGon ~ Low sec piracy since 2003 ~ Youtube ~ Join Us
Aldoraan Vadagh
let impossible genies honor trance - L.I.G.H.T.
#73 - 2012-11-23 16:50:11 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.


yes sure.... &/
1st try... 900 mio scammed
2nd try... lost a Carrier
3rd try... jf nearly got ganked in high sec

Goons are a shame...
I have talked with some of them and everyone is untrustworthy...
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-11-23 17:33:01 UTC
Matarella wrote:
GJ OP. You just openly showed you are a morron on the forums. Any corp that has any kind of security checking will find this thread and know right away they need to turn you down.


I thought it was spelled 'moron' - with one r.
Cpl Feld
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2012-11-23 17:37:16 UTC
Aldoraan Vadagh wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.


yes sure.... &/
1st try... 900 mio scammed
2nd try... lost a Carrier
3rd try... jf nearly got ganked in high sec

Goons are a shame...
I have talked with some of them and everyone is untrustworthy...


We actively discourage and punish for scamming, so please EveMail me the names of these players and we can talk about some restitution here.....
Skex Relbore
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-11-23 19:13:33 UTC
Aldoraan Vadagh wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.


yes sure.... &/
1st try... 900 mio scammed
2nd try... lost a Carrier
3rd try... jf nearly got ganked in high sec

Goons are a shame...
I have talked with some of them and everyone is untrustworthy...


Goons are the most trustworthy group in all of EVE. That you couldn't take the time to do the necessary research to avoid the outcomes documented above is simply proof that you are do not have what it takes to join (which is pretty sad considering the bar isn't that high to begin with).
Aldoraan Vadagh
let impossible genies honor trance - L.I.G.H.T.
#77 - 2012-11-23 19:25:23 UTC
Skex Relbore wrote:
Aldoraan Vadagh wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.


yes sure.... &/
1st try... 900 mio scammed
2nd try... lost a Carrier
3rd try... jf nearly got ganked in high sec

Goons are a shame...
I have talked with some of them and everyone is untrustworthy...


Goons are the most trustworthy group in all of EVE. That you couldn't take the time to do the necessary research to avoid the outcomes documented above is simply proof that you are do not have what it takes to join (which is pretty sad considering the bar isn't that high to begin with).



àhm... lol? =)
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#78 - 2012-11-23 22:13:43 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Have you asked this question to the pipeline technicians who are sent to some often-in-war middle eastern country?
Their reply could be enlightening.


This may shock you, but they apply for those jobs, they're not "sent". They're also compensated far, far better for their dangerous work than they would be at home, which doesn't line up with Eve at all.


1) This is false, since I used to be one of those kind of techs and I hardly "applied" to go there. One day they tell you if you'd go there. You can say no. Then again. Then you are fired.

2) You prove my point anyway by answering exactly what I wanted to see: "they are compensated far, far better for their dangerous work....".

In fact, I'd always loved to be able and move to nullsec to do what I am good and, risk and get reward.

What I don't look after, is to be punted in the middle of nowhere, cut off of any industrial facilities etc and imposed PvP sessions I can't even attend.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#79 - 2012-11-24 03:28:50 UTC
Skex Relbore wrote:
Goons are the most trustworthy group in all of EVE. That you couldn't take the time to do the necessary research to avoid the outcomes documented above is simply proof that you are do not have what it takes to join (which is pretty sad considering the bar isn't that high to begin with).

How does it feel, being even worse than people who are terrible at EVE, I wonder....

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Thomas Orca
Broski is ded
#80 - 2012-11-24 04:13:07 UTC
The real answer to the OP depends on how many times you are willing to apply with the reason "cyno alt" to random corps.