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Mars Curiosity Rover.... expects 'news for the history books'

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#21 - 2012-11-23 11:36:43 UTC
Like I said in the other thread (the original on this topic and in this forum) they found sandwiches!

Well no really, the link I think was correct. They will just confirm that the martian rocks we have, one suggesting water and the other not, that they will probably confirm water. My tax dollars hard at work... Roll

But hey, maybe we can get a coke with that BLT? ...and a side of seasoned curly fries.

I'm in it for the money

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ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-11-23 13:01:43 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Like I said in the other thread (the original on this topic and in this forum) they found sandwiches!

Well no really, the link I think was correct. They will just confirm that the martian rocks we have, one suggesting water and the other not, that they will probably confirm water. My tax dollars hard at work... Roll

But hey, maybe we can get a coke with that BLT? ...and a side of seasoned curly fries.


Actually I believe significant portions of the funding for the Curiosity program, including money for hardware development and the Mars Science Laboratory Program that oversees the entire rover project, came from private companies within the US as well as foreign companies. Even the Canadian Space Agency allocated funding for the project. Big smile

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#23 - 2012-11-23 13:32:44 UTC
ISD TYPE40 wrote:


Actually I believe significant portions of the funding for the Curiosity program, including money for hardware development and the Mars Science Laboratory Program that oversees the entire rover project, came from private companies within the US as well as foreign companies. Even the Canadian Space Agency allocated funding for the project. Big smile

$2.5B by US taxpayers. I'm all for private investment, that's the way it should be. I'm actually in favor of the rover, my name is one of the 1.2 million names sent up with it. ...oh wait two, the other is one of my mmo character names Pirate ...but still it's $2.5B and a lot of people here are not happy about having no choice in the matter. I'd really like to see this pretty much privatized in the future, things like this, while NASA uses tax payer funds for research as well as scientific satellites (SOHO etc)... at least during recessionary times.

I'm in it for the money

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#24 - 2012-11-23 18:25:12 UTC
ISD TYPE40 wrote:
Even the Canadian Space Agency allocated funding for the project. Big smile


That's not really anything new. Canada has built things for every NASA mission i can think of, but most popular is probably the Canadarm, which CNN and other media groups refer to as the "robotic arm", and do their best to keep the Canadian flag on it out of the shot.

Canadians also had a huge role in the Apollo 11 mission. In fact the landing equipment for the lunar lander was made in Canada, so it was Canadian technology that first touched the moon. Big smile

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Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#25 - 2012-11-23 18:46:08 UTC
Maybe the announcement is that they realized NASA is a giant dollar sink. As capsuleers we know not to tolerate this BS. As EVE players we tend to cream our jeans at the prospect of anything NASA. First world problems, maybe...

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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#26 - 2012-11-23 19:28:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Tul Breetai wrote:
Maybe the announcement is that they realized NASA is a giant dollar sink. As capsuleers we know not to tolerate this BS. As EVE players we tend to cream our jeans at the prospect of anything NASA. First world problems, maybe...


NASA isn't giant dollar sink, here some facts.

"Curiosity had a total cost of 2.5 billion dollars, yes, but it’s not like NASA went over to the Rover Depot, plucked the glamor model off the shelf and whipped out Uncle Sam’s credit card.

"No, NASA spread the cost of this mission out over eight years. The money spent went into salaries of highly-skilled engineers, programmers, managers, and independent contractors in over twenty states across the country. Things like the cost of rocket to launch it to Mars are included in that total, too, which accounts for nearly a fifth of the amount.

If you you just divide the total cost by the number of years NASA has saved for it, you come out with about $312 million per year. This works about to approximately 1.8% of NASA’s yearly budget and approximately diddly-squat of the total federal budget. That’s about $1 per year for every American, aka, nothing. Think of it this way: say you lose one dime every month this year. Whoops! You’ve lost more money than you spent on Curiosity.

For this tiny amount of money, we’ve developed some of the most advanced machinery ever created. We advance our scientific understanding of the universe. We encourage the development of highly-educated problem solvers and provide some of them with jobs. We’ll make discoveries and raise new questions that no one could have previously dreamed of."

Author Casey Dreier, full blog here.

Curiosity Comes Cheap

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ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-11-24 16:21:12 UTC
Webvan wrote:
ISD TYPE40 wrote:


Actually I believe significant portions of the funding for the Curiosity program, including money for hardware development and the Mars Science Laboratory Program that oversees the entire rover project, came from private companies within the US as well as foreign companies. Even the Canadian Space Agency allocated funding for the project. Big smile

$2.5B by US taxpayers. I'm all for private investment, that's the way it should be. I'm actually in favor of the rover, my name is one of the 1.2 million names sent up with it. ...oh wait two, the other is one of my mmo character names Pirate ...but still it's $2.5B and a lot of people here are not happy about having no choice in the matter. I'd really like to see this pretty much privatized in the future, things like this, while NASA uses tax payer funds for research as well as scientific satellites (SOHO etc)... at least during recessionary times.



I can understand why some people might be upset over the idea of spending that kind of money sending a mobile laboratory to another planet, but when the innovations produced by NASA are taken into account compared to the amount of money given to them, the results are stunning.

For instance:

NASA Spin-offs

More NASA spin-offs

Other NASA spin-offs

NASA's projected final expenditure for 2012 according to both NASA and Government Census figures, is around the $17.11B mark. The projected final expenditure for National Defence only (Military expenditure as a whole is broken into different sections) is around $737B. When you consider the benefits NASA has developed for humanity as a whole, it becomes somewhat easier to take that $1 per year hit to your pocket.

Citations:

US Government Census on National Defence budget.

US Government Census on Science & Space budget (note that NASA budget is listed under Space & Other Technologies)


Just some food for thought. Enjoy Big smile

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#28 - 2012-11-24 16:34:43 UTC
Shame NASA doesnt have the military budget. We could be playing EVE on the moon with princess Luna.
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