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When did the Caldari Militia become Pirates, Asshats and Griefers
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Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#41 - 2012-11-17 15:26:41 UTC
If your orca isn't a battle orca yer doin it wrong.

Hull tank, damage drones, ewar. It's the only way to PvP these days.
Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#42 - 2012-11-17 15:41:55 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
If your orca isn't a battle orca yer doin it wrong.

Hull tank, damage drones, ewar. It's the only way to PvP these days.


Would certainly surprise the **** out of the enemy at least.

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-11-17 19:15:46 UTC
Antares 04 wrote:
Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt wrote:
This is a space game where you shoot virtual spaceships. I don't understand why some people dont understand it.


This is a Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game set in space where you CAN, but don't HAVE TO shoot anyone you want. Not everyone bother to shoot anyone everywhere. Some shoot everything because they feel like it and because they can. Some like to discriminate and only shoot people that threaten them or behave like self-entitled little twats who think being a sad little Jack Sparrow clone is really the coolest, best thing ever since Damage control II's.

And some people understand that shooting virtual spaceships takes virtual bullets made with virtual materials and set their sights to make them, and sell them for virtual cash. Some of those might think that non-pirates exist in low-sec, and that bringing Orca's to low-sec is a great idea.

Some of those are now proven wrong.


There's a fundamental difference between the existence of non-pirates (hi!) and the non-existence of pirates.

EVE is, fundamentally, a dystopia. It's an ugly, nasty slice of creation, and while good people do exist in New Eden, there's no guarantee that anyone you meet will be one. You'll be attacked for your goods, for the potential threat you may pose, for the entertainment of others.

And, fundamentally, it's a universe at war. I, personally, wouldn't dare bring an Orca into non-CONCORD-policed space without a string of scouts and a pile of escorts.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
DaDudeinDump
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-11-17 20:00:31 UTC  |  Edited by: DaDudeinDump
The pipes are running dry, and finding good fights in my rifter is harder. Now, people don't fleet up as much as they used to. While I wouldn't say that fw is dying. I will say it's not as busy as it used to be when I first joined (which wasn't very long ago).

So, it probably started whenever people started leaving.
agharaster
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
#45 - 2012-11-18 14:19:27 UTC
oh yeah,
the problem about FW Role Players and FW leechers is old just like this game.

Personally i go GCC only when we need to clear out strangers and intruders (i.e. when some neut enter my plex) but you're talking about people that is unable to find his own targets and divert fire on easy and harmless people.

I hate that, seriously, expecially if people act like pirates with a militia uniform to cover their asses.

Thats why i don't like "drunk and disorder" and "wolf brigates" (too many ex amarr, pirates, actual asshats, pussy blobbers) and thats why i love fweddit, agony and ofc most of the minnie alliances involved in the FW.

It seems that be NBSI is just like to be pirate, what is the difference? as for me pirates do not shoot blue, isn't it?

p.s. once i was in a fleet, we were about to jump into a great fight, enemies was reshipping and preparing for us, and the FC plus 2-3 friends decided to go gcc against a neut stabber fleet.......
is that an opportunity or an idiot attitude?
they didn't kill the sfi and we lost the opportunity to engage the wt's. boring.

my 2 cents on that

07
aga
GreenSeed
#46 - 2012-11-19 06:28:10 UTC
the squids have turned to the dark side. join the gallente to beat them into submission.
Alex Carmel
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#47 - 2012-11-19 21:06:22 UTC
Opera Noir wrote:
Almost every PvP militia member is only two steps away from becoming pirates anyways I think. There is only one thing that holds most of us back and that is the high sec umbilical cord. Also hunting targets in enemy high-sec is good times.

At least those are the two things that hold me back every time I see neutrals floating obliviously about, that and gate guns are bad for frigate health.


Another good reason is to not be shot at by militia morons with badly configured overviews. My alt was somewhere around -6.5 and got killed/shot at a bunch of times by amarr militia while in said militia. So there is something good from being above -5.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#48 - 2012-11-19 21:42:55 UTC
Alex Carmel wrote:
Opera Noir wrote:
Almost every PvP militia member is only two steps away from becoming pirates anyways I think. There is only one thing that holds most of us back and that is the high sec umbilical cord. Also hunting targets in enemy high-sec is good times.

At least those are the two things that hold me back every time I see neutrals floating obliviously about, that and gate guns are bad for frigate health.


Another good reason is to not be shot at by militia morons with badly configured overviews. My alt was somewhere around -6.5 and got killed/shot at a bunch of times by amarr militia while in said militia. So there is something good from being above -5.

... erm... right... "badly configured overviews"... *whistles innocently* Roll

How did you Veterans start?
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2012-11-21 04:39:21 UTC
Easy money allways attracts lowlifes ... And when theres too much scum the good guys bail to seek better projects ... Leaving only the easy money seeking lazy scumbags to dwell around as they are too dumb to notice the cashman days are over.

It goes like that IRL and in EVE.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#50 - 2012-11-21 05:47:58 UTC
agharaster wrote:
oh yeah,
the problem about FW Role Players and FW leechers is old just like this game.

Personally i go GCC only when we need to clear out strangers and intruders (i.e. when some neut enter my plex) but you're talking about people that is unable to find his own targets and divert fire on easy and harmless people.

I hate that, seriously, expecially if people act like pirates with a militia uniform to cover their asses.

Thats why i don't like "drunk and disorder" and "wolf brigates" (too many ex amarr, pirates, actual asshats, ***** blobbers) and thats why i love fweddit, agony and ofc most of the minnie alliances involved in the FW.

It seems that be NBSI is just like to be pirate, what is the difference? as for me pirates do not shoot blue, isn't it?

p.s. once i was in a fleet, we were about to jump into a great fight, enemies was reshipping and preparing for us, and the FC plus 2-3 friends decided to go gcc against a neut stabber fleet.......
is that an opportunity or an idiot attitude?
they didn't kill the sfi and we lost the opportunity to engage the wt's. boring.

my 2 cents on that

07
aga


It's not about shooting harmless or easy people. It's about shooting what is there when there is opportunity.

I don't know what it is like where you base from but in Black Rise you end up lose sec status just by protecting yourself.
Once it's gone you might as well just keep shooting stuff cause it can't get any worse than it already is.

There are many in FW with low sec status that are not pirates.

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eddie valvetino
Bi-Polar Bears
#51 - 2012-11-21 15:50:55 UTC
psycho freak wrote:
You was doing pi in an orca in losec
i loled irl lol


**** it, i came IRL thinking about it
Ishkaru
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2012-11-22 02:18:21 UTC
I don't shoot neutrals till they shoot me, it's just my choice of playstyle. It's not that I travel into highsec, wich you can do even as
-10. There are plenty of "reds" to be had where my corp bases. I kinda like the challenge of keeping my sec status up and participating in pvp. Anyone can go negative in a matter of seconds if they really want.

Most other people living in lowsec will pretty much blowup anything that gets in range though so you definately shouldn't be surprised that someone would go after your juicy orca.
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
#53 - 2012-11-22 12:43:23 UTC
Lone Gunman wrote:
As a retired Caldari Major,I was thinking about having my Corp. rejoin the Caldari Militia and was in the process transferring assets to my low sec PI operations system as a stepping off point. The system is in Caldari space but is currently under Gallante control so there are Caldari Militia plexing in that system. I know it's been along time since my corp was in the Militia, but one of my alts was doing PI in an Orca and was attacked by four members of the Caldari State, specifically Caldari State Capturing.

When I was in Caldari Militia because primarily of our greater numbers,we were NRDS, Proud Pirate hunters keeping the Black Rise lanes clear and preventing the Gallante Militia from coming into Caldari space. We would never POD unless a Caldari Character was IN the Gallante federation. The Gallante were NBSI, didn't care about plexing and would Pod anybody for no reason and were just in it to Grief.

After talking to members Super Chair, Sean Parisi, Numistic and JAKE IMMF of Caldari State Capturing, they were telling me when they saw the Orca on scan , they stopped plexing went out of thier way to attack an unarmed ship and then POD me. I was then informed that the Caldari Militia had turned into NBSI. Hell they even said that Caldari Militia Corps even war dec one another. First they said that I was in a Gallante war zone, when that argument didn't hold then they said because I bribed heavely the pirate group in the system to be Blue to them so I was an accessory so that was justification. So when I informed them that even the Russian Pirate group in the system have attacked but never podded me, they confessed they just like to blow things up.

So my question is, is this what the Caladari Militia has turned into? There used to be a difference between the Caldari State and Gallante Militia now are they are both made up of ganker grifers and asshats? I sure won't be joining anytime soon.


It's an orca. Does anyone really need to justify why they would gank that?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-11-23 03:53:14 UTC
Lone Gunman wrote:
they stopped plexing went out of thier way to attack an unarmed ship and then POD me.


Why do people always seem so shocked when this happens?

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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#55 - 2012-11-23 04:44:47 UTC  |  Edited by: RavenPaine
I think the shooters have made a mistake. That happens in EVE a lot.
I think you should buy another Orca and autopilot it back home. Give it another go.
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