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How Hard is it to join a major Nullsec Alliance/ elite PvP gang
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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-11-22 20:55:43 UTC
Ive been looking into this recently as ive read to many posts about nullsecers bemoaning that highsec people wont try nullsec. So i thought i would try to see how easy it was to join up.

So the question is, how hard is it to join a nullsec alliance (i wont name the major ones as trolling will commence)


I joined the corp recruitment channel and every nullsec group i looked at were getting smashed in every war they had.

I looked at the corp recruitment threads and its exactly the same.

The conclusion is that the big nullsec alliances do not recruit through normal channels.


So i tried again with a more credible PvP corp who before i talked about my skills had kicked me for lack of killboard.

But i tend to live solo in Russian space, Why.....BECAUSE ITS FULL OF RUSSIANS. The area is the ultimate finishing school for anyone who lives in nullsec/lowsec.

So apart from the Goons who have their own incestious relationship with this game how easily would it be to join a major and successful powerblock or elite small/medium gang in nullsec.

And how long should i bother before i either give up or stick to Russian space or highsec.


EXTRA QUESTION (and one that needs a credible answer)

When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well. I am very very rich in this game and roughly 1% worth of all isk trades in Amarr runs through my characters. If i give out this information they could kick me and take these markets for themselves.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-11-22 20:58:13 UTC
It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-11-22 21:02:25 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.



Would that be the 500 million isk up front kind of easy?
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-11-22 21:08:31 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.



Would that be the 500 million isk up front kind of easy?

No, it's the "send your application in and fill out a questionnaire and give us your API key" kind of easy.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-11-22 21:14:49 UTC
Joining a 0.0 corporation is really easy.

0.0 corporations are just like high sec corporations: Some have ridiculous entry requirements, others have moderate requirements, and some have no requirements at all.

Corporations are corporations regardless of where in space they are located. If you want to join one, meet the people in the corporation, talk to them, get a feel for them, see if your playstyles and times match up and... join or not.

There isn't anything special about 0.0 corporations in comparison to any other corporation.
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-11-22 21:15:13 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.



Would that be the 500 million isk up front kind of easy?



I laughed so hard at that... +10

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
The Protato
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-11-22 21:15:20 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
No, it's the "send your application in and fill out a questionnaire and give us your API key" kind of easy.


Not to mention the "Be on our forums for three months and participate and be screened by six kinds of anal probe" easy
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#8 - 2012-11-22 21:20:34 UTC
The Protato wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
No, it's the "send your application in and fill out a questionnaire and give us your API key" kind of easy.

Not to mention the "Be on our forums for three months and participate and be screened by six kinds of anal probe" easy

I don't recall any kinds of anal probe, actually.

Were you trying to join -A- or something?

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Zhade Lezte
#9 - 2012-11-22 21:26:25 UTC
Different corporations in the CFC have differing recruitment policies as well. I would absolutely not rule us out. vOv

You should probably ask yourself what you want in a 0.0 corp and then work from there.

Fractal Muse wrote:
Joining a 0.0 corporation is really easy.

0.0 corporations are just like high sec corporations: Some have ridiculous entry requirements, others have moderate requirements, and some have no requirements at all.

Corporations are corporations regardless of where in space they are located. If you want to join one, meet the people in the corporation, talk to them, get a feel for them, see if your playstyles and times match up and... join or not.

There isn't anything special about 0.0 corporations in comparison to any other corporation.


This guy sums it up pretty well.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#10 - 2012-11-22 21:30:41 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:

When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well. I am very very rich in this game and roughly 1% worth of all isk trades in Amarr runs through my characters. If i give out this information they could kick me and take these markets for themselves.


So multibox like 500 Aeons and win EVE.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-11-22 21:31:38 UTC
So what are the entry erequiements to join

The Goons (apart from the 500 million Isk route)

Razor Alliance

Triple A

Rooks and Kings

Honey Badgers

The Veyr
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Zoctrine
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-11-22 21:31:50 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
I don't recall any kinds of anal probe



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Shadowschild
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-11-22 21:34:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Shadowschild
Zhade Lezte wrote:
Different corporations in the CFC have differing recruitment policies as well. I would absolutely not rule us out. vOv

You should probably ask yourself what you want in a 0.0 corp and then work from there.

Fractal Muse wrote:
Joining a 0.0 corporation is really easy.

0.0 corporations are just like high sec corporations: Some have ridiculous entry requirements, others have moderate requirements, and some have no requirements at all.

Corporations are corporations regardless of where in space they are located. If you want to join one, meet the people in the corporation, talk to them, get a feel for them, see if your playstyles and times match up and... join or not.

There isn't anything special about 0.0 corporations in comparison to any other corporation.


This guy sums it up pretty well.


Having spent a full week, every day applying & going through the public channels / teamspeak. I can say there is a BIG difference between corporations. You have to look at the CEOs or recruitment directors. If they are hot headed, arrogant or generally full of ****, walk away.

If they promise you the moon & are still in the process of aquiring space, concider the risks.

If they are already established somewhere & want experienced pilots, be prepared to prove your worth & show your capable of giving back too. It's normal they will refuse a pilot with no pvp history, in their minds your only going to rat & be a liability in battle. Your also not used to losing ships or taking orders in com. You can quickly become a liability.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#14 - 2012-11-22 21:36:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Karn Dulake wrote:
So what are the entry erequiements to join

...

Triple A

-A- are too elite for you. Oh they're also getting their face stomped in, if I remember. You sure about this? As I understand you might find yourself sitting in NPC nullsec, maybe hoping to go back home when the HBCs will let it go without a massive fight.


Which is never, I'd guess.

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Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-11-22 21:44:41 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
It's actually very easy to join us compared to most nullsec alliances.


10bux.
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-11-22 21:48:02 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:

EXTRA QUESTION (and one that needs a credible answer)

When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well. I am very very rich in this game and roughly 1% worth of all isk trades in Amarr runs through my characters. If i give out this information they could kick me and take these markets for themselves.


Financial Transactions are a good way to track down spies.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#17 - 2012-11-22 21:49:23 UTC
If you are 5.0 sec status with no pvp history and no significant corp activity in the past then what can you actually offer to a PVP corp?

It;s like going into a job interview with no CV and no proof that you are in any way competent. Join some random fleets, join in on roams as a guest, join RvB, Eve Uni, maybe even ask Snigg; and heaven forbid you try some solo PvP or show any initiative.

Don't expect to just get in by talking. Prove you deserve to be there, or join someone incompetent like Intrepid Crossing who will accept anyone.

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Borascus
#18 - 2012-11-22 22:03:32 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
If you are 5.0 sec status with no pvp history and no significant corp activity in the past then what can you actually offer to a PVP corp?

It;s like going into a job interview with no CV and no proof that you are in any way competent. Join some random fleets, join in on roams as a guest, join RvB, Eve Uni, maybe even ask Snigg; and heaven forbid you try some solo PvP or show any initiative.

Don't expect to just get in by talking. Prove you deserve to be there, or join someone incompetent like Intrepid Crossing who will accept anyone.



No offence here, but the most offensive thing to go through in a recruitment process is the use of - IRC + Mumble + Teamspeak/Ventrilo + Full API (not the limited one) + a reference.

I'd only really join a corp that has one requirement - Comms, any other comms or combination of comms is a liability.


Plus the risk of a hacked pc, saw that happen once, the guy it happened to had set up a corporate vetting website to give security clearance for TS, ended up with his Server hacked.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-11-22 22:07:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Karn Dulake wrote:
So what are the entry erequiements to join

The Goons (apart from the 500 million Isk route)

Razor Alliance

Triple A

Rooks and Kings

Honey Badgers

The Veyr


:tenbux: (Or buy a premium account for instant access!!!!!)

Some sort of fitness test because no fatties allowed. Must also love goats.

6 types of anal probing, a green killboard & thinking you're the best while being ****.

A green killboard, mostly solo.

Being a terrible poster

Who?

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-11-22 22:12:53 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Ive been looking into this recently as ive read to many posts about nullsecers bemoaning that highsec people wont try nullsec. So i thought i would try to see how easy it was to join up.


Not sure if trolling but:

-search for corporations in said alliance
-read said corporations forums, eventually look at KB's and take a first contact in their public forum
-find the one sticking to your own goals
-join their in game public channel, ask some director and have a private talk with
-apply in said corporation private forum without forgetting to add a full API and correctly answer their questions
-eventually try to have TS/Skype/Mumble/Vent discussion with their recruiter.

Then:

-If you have nothing to hide
-if you realise they can't do a crap with your full API but only realise you're not a spy, corp thief, botter
-if you're ready to try Eve at full version and not the high sec beta any more

You'll get in whatever alliance in whatever corporation in whatever region of your like.

Simple answer: show white hands and profit.

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