Ships & Modules

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Gal get 3 mids :-)

Well, that is much better . Unfortunately, in comparison to how astoundingly effective the other two Destroyers seem I still feel certain that the Gallente and Amarr (especially Amarr) Destroyers are going to be in the back seat, simply because the other two are easier.

On the opposite end of the spectrum i expect the Corax to become an unstoppable monster of doing extremely bad things to Frigates with the missile buff that's incoming (particularly, Guided Missile Precision applying to all Missiles).

While the Dragoon does seem to be doing better on test server than I expected (thank every god out there), it is NO mini-curse. The neuts only get a bonus to range, which still only puts them out to about 13k tops since they are only smalls, and do not get any bonus to Xfer amount, which will limit their effectiveness, in particular vs anything larger than a frigate. This really only serves to keep everyone out of brawling range. So the enemy will still have hardeners, mwd, ab, and guns, along with ewar (the ewar will be limited in effectiveness due to drones though). It also does not get any form of TD bonus.

Really the biggest effective things is the drones damage bonus, the +25% mwd speed letting them zip up / fire / catch up again with fast ships, and the 25% increased cap recharge will allow a rather nifty double rep fit that I saw someone else use (in F&I forums under new dessies).

I will probably see if I can fit one with 3 rockets or LM's and 4 neuts, to see how well it does. With my drone skills as high as they are, I will do everything I can to make this and the Gallente dessie into my primary destroyers of choice.

P.S.: I saw someone recommend using 4 lights +1 med webber drone for the Gallente dessie. Interesting idea that I intend to try out.

It's going to bring sooooo much pain.

Remember light missiles got a decent buff too.

Update!

The frigate is the loser in this fight!

That's the problem I have with the Dragoon. What good is neuts against missile launchers, rocket launchers, or auto cannons? Or anything with over 12km range? The only reason this setup works on an Arbitrator is because it uses the neuts to shutdown propulsion so it can then dictate range or transversal velocity to use its TD to maximum effectiveness.

Neut one of the other races destroyers dry ( except for blaster ships) and watch as it shrugs and continues to rip you apart with its cap less weapons.

Sure it will work on frigs, they don't have near the range or DPS of a destroyer. That's why I'll be fitting NOSs and duel reps. If I can't shut their DPS down at least I offset some of the DPS while my drones chew on them.

At the cost of damage (dda's). I love em and will be flying em, but by giving the same speed bonus on top of drone damage bonus, and then tacking on that turret bonus on the Gallente, I just see it as a superior ship now, and the Dragoon as a no-longer original bonused ship in any way.

I don't see a lack of DPS from DDA's as a problem for the Dragoon / Algos.

The range-boosted neuts are going to kick ass vs kitey ships. I honestly cannot see how you'd approach a Dragoon with a great plan to take it out with a 120 DPS Gaytron. If you orbit close enough to scram, you get neuted flat. If you kite at range, you just DIAF swiftly to the drones of doom.

As for the Algos with 35m3, I'd personally rock 1 Valk webber and 4 x Hob IIs versus a frig. The Valk webber would actually have a reasonable chance of catching something with its speed bonus. Then the Hobs would tear it a new one.

Really? since when?

Destroyers are predominantly seen in FW where there are plexes cruisers and larger can't enter.