EVE General Discussion

OMFG. You're scared! Ganking non-combat freighter alts was easy and now you're wetting your pants and want to cling to your mother's skirts because of Crimewatch.

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Sir, I have one word for you: "kek"

Absolutely agree with and support everything Terminal says, but by now I'm quite certain that we've lost the war. Old EVE is gone, and it's not coming back. The new guys might call it evolution, and righteously so. But like Terminal said, like we've all said, these new guys will some day become old vets, and will get just as angry and depressed when CCP decides to go after a newer generation's wallets by adding dragons, racing, and the word "extreme" to the exploration/mining simulator they've come to love.

What goes around, comes around.

The barge buffs have left a nasty taste. They effectivly removed two lines of piracy and gave us a barge lineup just as unbalanced as before. As predicted, the people who whined about their untanked barges dying are now whining about bumping and freighter ganking.

"What comes around goes around" i believe.

CCP reacted because it was becoming too popular and EVERYONE and their dog were doing it. This thing wouldn't have happened in the first place if people didn't die so much to suicide gankers.

Now there are extremes when it comes to playstyles in eve.
There are:
-Hardcore(by that i mean people with alts who do everything possible to gain some edge over others)
¬ PVPers and PLEXing tengus/mission runners with multiple accounts
- Normal people(with just 1 account, play when they feel like, do what they want without giving too much care about politics/drama)
-Casuals(just mine while watching movies/playing something on another screen, just in eve because its a scifi game)

The hardcore crowd feels entitled to dictate the other 2 just because they are somehow more "elite" hence the whole "eve is harsh HTFU, PVP or GTFO attitude" and narrow mindness that their playstyle is the "only right playstyle.

CCP is really having a hard time balancing these 3 groups because if hardcore abuse one game mechanic then it becomes no fun for the other 2, if the other 2 are having too easy of a time getting rich without risk then 1s are getting pissed off. Each group has their own vision of eve and you can't just change it. The whole "player content thing" exists because opinions clash.

Right now group 1 is whining about a change that will make their actions against hisec targets have more risky consequences even though i agree that you can't fix stupid and that those afking freighter/hulk pilots deserve to be shot down.

Really, eve is just getting better and better by providing more pew for everyone. You are not locked to 3 choices anymore if you are suicide ganked(attack them, wardec them or merc them).

'It's a sandbox, it's a sandbox! It's a sandbox that just happens to have PVP!'

This stupidity seems to be well represented in this thread.

http://www.eveonline.com/retribution/crimewatch/

Legality – This pilot has recently committed criminal or suspicious acts in Empire space. This flag has two states – SUSPECT (yellow) and CRIMNAL (red). The state is dependent on the severity of their actions and whether or not the actions were committed in Empire space. CONCORD will take action against pilots flagged as criminals in their space, but anyone with either state flagged is freely attackable by other capsuleers.

Meaning if you attack a non-wartarget in high sec everyone can shoot you....ccp is just making it clearer that you are a badboy and shouldnt break the law :D

Also the whole thing about selling kill rights, if im not into pvp but i want to get you back for blowing up my stuff then i can just sell the rights to someone else....that alone makes you more attackable.

I am suicide-ganking.

What is ten times more than nothing?

Just sayin'.

We're making progress here.

Okay, now, my next question is, why would I bother to gank on "DC," when I can outsource the activity fully to my gank alt(s)?

Let's introduce some constants here:

- I am indeed a person who up until the release of the next expansion has used main(s) for ganking, be it for convenience, extra damage from maxed-out skills, or whatever other reasons might exist.
- I am a person who requires main(s) to be able to move through empire with a moderate degree of freedom. For example, I do a lot of empire mercenary work and wars, and need to be able to go to any system to pursue my targets, including major hubs.