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new industrialist struggling to play game during war decs, advice?

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Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-11-16 21:21:15 UTC
EveWho says your corp is rather active, and it looks like about half your members joined since September. There are a number of folks who monitor the corps showing the highest growth and wardec them for ransoms. If your corp shows up on the "growing corp" list, you are likely to end up getting a wardec within a week.
Cadiz Aragon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-11-16 21:28:06 UTC
Huttan Funaila wrote:
EveWho says your corp is rather active, and it looks like about half your members joined since September. There are a number of folks who monitor the corps showing the highest growth and wardec them for ransoms. If your corp shows up on the "growing corp" list, you are likely to end up getting a wardec within a week.



ahh, good to know
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-11-17 01:59:03 UTC
Train a 2nd character on your account (if you don't want to pay for a 2nd account) to be able to do some basic hauling, mission running or whatever. It literally is only 2 - 4 days to train a descent basic hauler (I think its 8 days for a mammoth + expanded cargoholds II + medium cargohold opts).

Also there is always the option of just leaving the corp while the war is on. Not sure why people are so apposed to this option but really, you have stuff to do, and need to make money. Talk to your CEO and explain to him that you are just damn broke and need to leave the corp for a few days.

Otherwise you just need to start paying for an alt or training a basic alt for fun stuff on the same account, which will be beneficial in the weeks/months/years to come.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#24 - 2012-11-17 03:00:05 UTC
Supply pirates in low sec and work in the low sec during decs so your buddies can get in on the fights. Pirate
Rhiana O'Bludger
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-11-18 11:31:38 UTC
mate, welcome to the eve war dec system

Unfortunately for you, the best option you have is to drop corp. You may listen to the peanuts on here saying "fight back, kill them, don't be a pussy...blah blah", but the fact is it will gain you nothing, you will still get wardecced, you will still get picked on, for basically being a high sec indy corp.

I don't begrudge your play style friend, couldn't care less if you never shot a ship, or how risk averse you or your corpmate are, and even though some wankers will post further on about eve is not safe, learn to pvp, toughen up and the rest of the crap they sprout, the fact is, that your style of play is seriously gimped, by one or 2 dickheads that will just dock up anyways if it looks like they gonna loose.

Drop corp, form several corps that you and your corp members can move between, stay in a noob corp for a week etc etc.

you might get decced by a 1 man corp, but you will find that guys hop in-between these corps depending on targets, or if the going is to tough in one of the other corps there in. GIVE THEM NOTHING, no fights, no isk, do not talk to them in local, or chats, do not evemail them, try to reason or anything like that, tears and killmalis or ransoms will just make you targets. Just put them on ignore and go your merry way. I spent some time in a war dec corp on a alt of mine, and i can tell you, some of these guys get real pissed off when they get nothing out of anything.

My high sec crops get decced quite often, i give nothing out, i move to another, or drop completely into a noob corp.
As others have eluded to you, you have 3 characters on 1 account, if you are going to live the life of a eve high sec player, develop a second or 3rd character on a paralel skill line to what you enjoy now, and use that character if inconvenienced on another.

RIght or wrong, war decs are in the game, to re-inforce the "at constant war" them of eve, the loop hole to get out of them mate, is to jump in a starter corp, start a channel up in game with all your corp mates so you can still chat or do other stuff with your corp mates while at war.

Try to minimize the impact as much as you can, try not let others impact the way YOU enjoy playing eve, after all its your 15 bucks a month

best of luck.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#26 - 2012-11-19 18:38:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Beckie DeLey wrote:
On a more serious note, you shouldn't count on a blockade runner fixing your problem. They are still highly vulnerable at the undock - you will just be locked in your market hub should your war targets camp the undock like most of the deccing corps do. Trust me, i lost a Viator on the Rens undock shortly after buying my first one because i didn't know that the cloak wouldn't work... Big smile Live and learn.

You should use instant-warp undock bookmarks to off-grid locations.

Heck, Jita even has a celestial aligned with the undock (I think it is planet 4, to the left of the nearby moon 4-4), which makes setting a mid-warp bookmark trivial. I also have warp-in bookmarks at 0 on the station, above, below, etc., away from common gate warp-ins where gankers often wait.

Amarr is equally easy, as you can use your tactical overlay to fly a line straight down from the station (click on it) to create a bookmark (use a fast frigate or Interceptor).

I make bookmarks for all the stations I frequent. Avoids you getting bumped by the crowds.
valikduti
Veritech Enterprises
#27 - 2012-11-21 17:24:28 UTC
Yeah come to nullsec and do indie with my corp
David Zahavi
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-11-22 04:50:49 UTC  |  Edited by: David Zahavi
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Creating_an_Alt_Hauler

Everyone serious about industry has out of corp characters that can carry things for them. NPC corps can not have war declared against them, and a new character created today will always be put in one. Yes the tax is high, its not meant to do missions in. Its meant to haul stuff, or do basic industry and mining in without the problem of wars.


You could also put your alt in your own personal corp you make for yourself.

If you never tell anyone its your alt, and you never annoy people with him, you will never ever get wardecced, because people have better things to do than going around spending 50mil to try and hunt down 1 person they've never met and dont know from anyone else. They usually have limited play time and wrongs to avenge, and thats usually more fun than hunting down some indy alt who only undocks once a week and can leave corp and create a new one at the drop of a hat.



If you have a main, usually this will be a pvp character. If you have an alt, this may very well be your industry character and take care of any hauling, mining, manufacturing, etc.

Besides, if you ever decide to sell any character having lots of pvp skills in an indy char is lost money, having indy skills on a pvp char is lost money. Even if you will never sell the character, it can be a terrible pain to be on one side fo the galaxy killing stuff and having fun, and suddenly needing to be on the other to start new research/manufacturing jobs.
Spacing Cowboy
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-11-22 07:55:57 UTC
As alternative, move to 0.0 , even on lower sp very doable.
There is a screaming shortage of decent 0.0 miners.

Its amazing how easy it is, just assume everybody is out there to kill you and your fine.
Dont let some bittervets tell you you need xxx SP to do it.
Sidrat Flush
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#30 - 2012-11-22 13:29:35 UTC
David Zahavi wrote:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Creating_an_Alt_Hauler

If you have a main, usually this will be a pvp character. If you have an alt, this may very well be your industry character and take care of any hauling, mining, manufacturing, etc.

Besides, if you ever decide to sell any character having lots of pvp skills in an indy char is lost money, having indy skills on a pvp char is lost money. Even if you will never sell the character, it can be a terrible pain to be on one side fo the galaxy killing stuff and having fun, and suddenly needing to be on the other to start new research/manufacturing jobs.


I'm sure it's true when creating a character to sell but having indi and pvp skills on one character is not a bad thing. It's part of the genius of Eve where you are free to be anything or every facet you care to train. Of course it asked longer relatively however it'd Eve there will always be something else to train.

As you're doing missions as well, PvP skills aren't that different just the willingness to give it a go.

As an industrialist myself it's up to me and no one else to protect what I believe I own.

But that's more long term duration, short term quick fix is as everyone else has already pointed out, create a hauler alt. Perhaps get extra PI character as well more semi passive income.

For better or worse Eve is about having alts to use when circumstance dictates.

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.

Doddy
Excidium.
#31 - 2012-11-22 15:27:15 UTC
get your friends to scout for you or run protection. You have friends right?
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