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Taking down a hi-sec POS

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Reppyk
The Black Shell
#41 - 2012-11-22 13:40:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Reppyk
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Sorry I was wrong.

Passive shield regen on an offline large Caldari tower is 250 DPS not 750 DPS. Based on 50,000,000 shield divided by 200,000 second recharge time. So 450 DPS could in theory take down a large towers shield in 69.5 hours plus down time and any regen it got thru down time. Then you have 4,000,000 armor, and 4,000,000 structure to burn through. Which should in theory take another 11 hours.

So if you were able to log on every day right after down time and start shooting you could in theory be able to take down a large offline tower in 100 hours or so doing 450 DPS accounting for down time and passive regen.

Large off line towers still have full shields, they just do not have the force field bubble online towers have. However online towers also have hardeners increasing the EHP well beyond 58,000,000.
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no and you're wrong.

You're forgetting the nice 50% therm res and the fact that the shield regens very fast (ie just after the DT, if you can't run to your computer fast enough).
It's not 100 hours, it's a full week of lazapewpew. Which I would call "impossible".
And once the shield is down and you begin to eat the armor/hull, there is still an important shield regen.

David Zahavi wrote:
I recruited all my alts, spent all their unallocated skill points and have them in 220dps harbys bashing away with my oracle now.

Another friend also made 3 1 day old alts to put on the tower shooting about 80 dps each, combined to about 240.

So about 1k dps total between us all.

Do you think that will be enough to overcome the pos shield when it is at its strongest recharge at just over 25%?

By my calculations the average recharge rate of the shield is 250, with it hitting 650 at its peak of 25%, and then all down hill after that. I'm most worried that I'm going to be hitting around 25% at down time >.>

Guess we'll pick it up from there after that and see if we can really overcome it in any meaningful amount of time.

Now I wish I'd payed better attention in calculus 10 years ago so I could set up the forumla and find out exactly how much HP we have to eat through total including shield recharge with our current dps.

(especially since a fleet with more DPS has to deal with less time of the shield recharging, making me feel that high sec poses are a cruel joke CCP decided to use in order to troll most newbie industrialists.)
With brand new alts, it's better to use coercers. Well see by yourself :
http://blshl.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12100642
or
http://blshl.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12100644
I launched 3 angry coercers and went to bed. The tower was in armor the next morning, ready to scoop the stuff. ♥

Large POSes in highsec (and C1/C2 wormholes) are a joke and are probably one of the safest thing in EVE.


David Zahavi wrote:
EDIT: And what is the best way to find a reliable merc corp that would be willing to help?
That was me and my corp, BLSHL... Before I stopped being a merc.
Try the "merc contracts" channel but since the last patch, most of the small merc corps died, and the ones that are still alive will charge you a lot (because of their wardec fees and the "Dec Shield exploit").

Karig'Ano Keikira wrote:
speaking about towers and mercs, I had this problem myself - you can find moons reasonably close to Jita (4-6 jumps) but it can be pain in the butt :(
how much do mercs charge for services like this? say... blowing up offline pos that (likely) belongs to dead corp. Or... blowing up not offline pos that belongs to not so good friend of mine and his 3 men corp? :)
I was charging from 500m to 3b, depending of the POS (race/size) and what kind of defense I could encounter.

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

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David Zahavi
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-11-23 10:08:10 UTC  |  Edited by: David Zahavi
For the record, my corp was able to bring down the large pos with just over 1k paper dps in under 36 hours.


And for the merc corps, luckily the dec shield is dying in a fire in under 2 weeks.
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