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DEC SHIELD - Now Closed

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Sutskop
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2011-10-20 14:15:12 UTC
Shouldn't this be in an industrials subforum? Or maybe even the beginners' :)
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#22 - 2011-10-20 22:46:22 UTC
Sutskop wrote:
Shouldn't this be in an industrials subforum? Or maybe even the beginners' :)

You sound mad. u mad bro?
Karah Serrigan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2011-10-20 23:40:20 UTC
Well i dont see how this helps in the long run. If they are dedicated and really want a war with your corp they will just redec you costing them 2-6m, no biggy. You only get what, 48 hours of peace, but ruin your corps alliance history?
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#24 - 2011-10-21 00:40:36 UTC
If they're avoiding wars in this manner, I doubt alliance history is their biggest concern.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2011-10-21 00:54:23 UTC
This is a potential ISK maker for sure...but at worst its just a pain in the @$$ type of effect.

Re-war-dec'ing....redacing war-decs that are mis-aimed....spending isk to re-war dec.

Not so much in terms of expense...but frustarting on the part of the agressor.

I mean its not that hard to manipulate in to evade war-dec...but you'd have to be pretty dedicated to attempt this.

Messy is what I would call this...very messy.

not exactly effective either. StraightUgh

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The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#26 - 2011-10-21 23:44:35 UTC
We are currently aiding another few corps in tower defense. I highly encourage you to apply to Dec Shield the moment you get wardecced. Don't wait for the enemy fleet to be attacking your tower, because at that stage it's almost guaranteed to be too late for us to help.
Cur
Back Door Burglars
#27 - 2011-10-24 02:55:59 UTC
perhaps now the highsec griefers will get the point...

People whom dont want to pvp, but wish to remain with their group of friends in eve will avoid wardecs using any methods they can.

Re-war deccing them is just wasting you're own money.

Perhaps the highsec gankers should grow some balls, and step into lowsec/0.0 for their pvp fix.


But they wont, hense the whole niche of people whom get pissy at people whom avoid wardecs. They need to attack prey which cannot fight back, just so they can feel superior, and gloat about it with friends whom have the same condition.

Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#28 - 2011-10-24 03:08:24 UTC
Cur wrote:
perhaps now the highsec griefers will get the point...

People whom dont want to pvp, but wish to remain with their group of friends in eve will avoid wardecs using any methods they can.

Re-war deccing them is just wasting you're own money.

Perhaps the highsec gankers should grow some balls, and step into lowsec/0.0 for their pvp fix.


But they wont, hense the whole niche of people whom get pissy at people whom avoid wardecs. They need to attack prey which cannot fight back, just so they can feel superior, and gloat about it with friends whom have the same condition.




dawww isnt the 0,0 pet cute.

I agree with the founder of Dec Shield, this is a valid tactic now that CCP has done a 'rule reversal' (what you did there was seen). On the other hand if high sec PVPers want to get some pew pew on, maybe joining the alliance would be fun, its like PRVTR in reverse.

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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2011-10-24 03:16:06 UTC
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Cur
Back Door Burglars
#30 - 2011-10-24 03:17:36 UTC
Lithalnas wrote:

dawww isnt the 0,0 pet cute.





You're not allowed to say that without following it up with a least a pat on the head or scratch behind the ears, dammit.


WHERES MY PATS!?!?!?!
steave435
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2011-10-24 12:58:54 UTC
Been 3 years since I cared about high sec war mechanics, but won't this mean that the corp will have a 24 hour war against ALL the corps/alliances that have a war against the alliance at the moment they leave?
IIRC, leaving an alliance that is at war starts a war against the leaving corp that instantly goes to the "can fight" stage, but starts the end of war cooldown at the same time.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2011-10-24 13:25:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
aaii...

For a long time now I put through two votes for the same corp. Incase of things like this, since it happaned before it became so called "LEGAL".

So dec... the corp joins an alliance (Free alliance WarDec) and then they surrender by leaving the alliance, I immediatly activate the next war on them as well. So they have maybe a few minutes of no war.

Either way, 50mil aint much to keep a war going. So if they join a decent alliance you might get alot more targets to shoot at. Which is always fun... Right? RIGHT?

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2011-10-24 13:56:25 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:

Wow, no words can describe how low this is ...


HAHA really of all the scams, ganks, etc you think avoiding a war is the on the lowest of your totem poll? Pirate
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#34 - 2011-10-24 19:29:33 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
aaii...

For a long time now I put through two votes for the same corp. Incase of things like this, since it happaned before it became so called "LEGAL".

So dec... the corp joins an alliance (Free alliance WarDec) and then they surrender by leaving the alliance, I immediatly activate the next war on them as well. So they have maybe a few minutes of no war.

Either way, 50mil aint much to keep a war going. So if they join a decent alliance you might get alot more targets to shoot at. Which is always fun... Right? RIGHT?

You would like to think the game worked correctly like this. But you cannot reissue a war against a target until your previous war against them has dropped, guaranteeing at least 48hr protection from any individual aggressor (more than enough to save any tower).

Furthermore, the corporation is immune to incoming wardecs after it leaves the alliance until the next downtime. This allows a well timed dropping from the alliance to provide near unlimited immunity to an unlimited number of incoming wardecs from various targets.

As of now 5 corporations have been accepted into alliance and 3 towers saved. Tears may continue below
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2011-10-24 23:00:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
The Zerg Overmind wrote:

You would like to think the game worked correctly like this. But you cannot reissue a war against a target until your previous war against them has dropped, guaranteeing at least 48hr protection from any individual aggressor (more than enough to save any tower).



You misunderstood my ******** one.

The second vote is done via another corp. Since as I mentioned before, these things were done well before you even dreamed of offering these services. The minute I recieve that surreder email I activate the war with the other corp.

I am a bit more tenatious than your average war deccer especially when I get paid to do something.

EDIT: lol, r-tarded is a swear word? Thanks a lot you ****-brained, ****-faced, ball breaking, duck ******* pain in the ass...... BLERP [Moral Statute Machine] Cannibal Kane, you are fined five credits for repeated violations of the verbal morality statute.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

jimmyjam
Fire Mandrill
#36 - 2011-10-24 23:24:34 UTC
I know its probly been done before, But do this same idea stack up loads of dec,s then allow some hardcore pvpers into the alliance for a fee, for massive target practice but only allow one group a certain length of time to be involved like a fews days to like a week.Big smile
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#37 - 2011-10-25 07:34:59 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:


You misunderstood my ******** one.

The second vote is done via another corp. Since as I mentioned before, these things were done well before you even dreamed of offering these services. The minute I recieve that surreder email I activate the war with the other corp.


Actually this is not currently possible due to a bug in the game, which is what I've stated above. No entity can wardec a corporation that has just left an alliance until after the next downtime. It doesn't matter how many extra corporations/alliances you have waiting in the wings ready to dec the moment they drop from the alliance. You will not be able to wardec until after the next downtime. It gives some error message.

And unless this bug is only a recent development, or has been fixed in the last month, I assume it still works that way.
Sutskop
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2011-10-25 10:10:42 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
Sutskop wrote:
Shouldn't this be in an industrials subforum? Or maybe even the beginners' :)

You sound mad. u mad bro?


While I realize we are in C&P where you feel the need to overuse memes - no, just an honest suggestion.
I'd think that most readers of C&P already know those mechanics, while the pure industrialists might need a hint.
Big Bad Mofo
Doomheim
#39 - 2011-10-25 11:10:43 UTC
But the wars get transferred to your alliance, so more targets :)
Hoedagen
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2011-10-25 11:33:20 UTC
I approve of this service, If just for the fact it's trolls trolling trolls...

tears, delicious no matter which side they come from.