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Dec Shield - End of the Second Era

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#401 - 2012-11-17 22:11:17 UTC
Shylari Avada wrote:
[Aside from empire griefers all the PVP players in this game live in space where war decs are meaningless, like low or null. Hope that helps.

Also- lol empire pvp


Confirming most nul sec alliances are clueless in highsec .... Twisted Best decs we had in highsec were with nul sec alliances.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#402 - 2012-11-18 18:59:10 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Shylari Avada wrote:
[Aside from empire griefers all the PVP players in this game live in space where war decs are meaningless, like low or null. Hope that helps.

Also- lol empire pvp


Confirming most nul sec alliances are clueless in highsec .... Twisted Best decs we had in highsec were with nul sec alliances.


how do you pvp in dull sec when everybody is blue?

no more games... it's real this time!!!

cynthia greythorne
Blue Cat Instrumentality
#403 - 2012-11-19 11:32:43 UTC
Thank you, Zerg Overmind!

Some strive for greatness, but few achieve it. You stand among the best.

And a salute to the German Freakshow whom we met through Dec Shield. Great work!
Shylari Avada
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#404 - 2012-11-19 20:56:46 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Shylari Avada wrote:
[Aside from empire griefers all the PVP players in this game live in space where war decs are meaningless, like low or null. Hope that helps.

Also- lol empire pvp


Confirming most nul sec alliances are clueless in highsec .... Twisted Best decs we had in highsec were with nul sec alliances.



Because the odd mission runner and guy undocking a Transport or a shuttle in jita is a fine representation of nullsec amirite?

Isana Tori
Doomheim
#405 - 2012-11-20 01:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Isana Tori
Yea it's the null sec players that are terrible Roll
HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#406 - 2012-11-20 01:53:14 UTC
Look at me! I'm cool.

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.

The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#407 - 2012-11-21 10:21:09 UTC  |  Edited by: The Zerg Overmind
Now with NCDot and RED.Overlord. They have chosen to trust CCP's ability to fix wardecs. Because they've done such a great job up to now :P

[Vader] I find your *cough* *cough* faith disturbing [/Vader]


Now with updated graph
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#408 - 2012-11-21 11:04:37 UTC
Shylari Avada wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
Shylari Avada wrote:
[Aside from empire griefers all the PVP players in this game live in space where war decs are meaningless, like low or null. Hope that helps.

Also- lol empire pvp


Confirming most nul sec alliances are clueless in highsec .... Twisted Best decs we had in highsec were with nul sec alliances.



Because the odd mission runner and guy undocking a Transport or a shuttle in jita is a fine representation of nullsec amirite?



Because the odd highsec carebear that gets blobbed in his mining ship in nulsec, is a fine rep of highsec ....Blink So many nul sec players who think that they are sooo good, just because they are part of a big group and kill in blobs. Clueless. Not saying there are no good players in nulsec, because there are many......just as there are in highsec. But if people say everyone in highsec is a bad pvp carebear, then expect it to bounce back in ya face. P

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
#409 - 2012-11-21 21:50:14 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:


Because the odd highsec carebear that gets blobbed in his mining ship in nulsec, is a fine rep of highsec ....Blink So many nul sec players who think that they are sooo good, just because they are part of a big group and kill in blobs. Clueless. Not saying there are no good players in nulsec, because there are many......just as there are in highsec. But if people say everyone in highsec is a bad pvp carebear, then expect it to bounce back in ya face. P



You sir, speak the truth. Too many null sec pvpers claim to be gods and then come to high sec and expect to be treated as such. We recently went to null sec to see how we faired against these gods since they were always inviting us...... First day we killed a 2.7 bil pod along with many other things.

http://spacejews.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3687

In my opinion the average null sec pvper can't function without a blob Roll Yet to lose a ship without them requiring one....

"It is not possible either to trick or escape the mind of Zeus."

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Solj RichPopolous
Silent Havok.
H A R D L I N E R S
#410 - 2012-11-21 21:57:48 UTC
Zeus Maximo wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:


Because the odd highsec carebear that gets blobbed in his mining ship in nulsec, is a fine rep of highsec ....Blink So many nul sec players who think that they are sooo good, just because they are part of a big group and kill in blobs. Clueless. Not saying there are no good players in nulsec, because there are many......just as there are in highsec. But if people say everyone in highsec is a bad pvp carebear, then expect it to bounce back in ya face. P



You sir, speak the truth. Too many null sec pvpers claim to be gods and then come to high sec and expect to be treated as such. We recently went to null sec to see how we faired against these gods since they were always inviting us...... First day we killed a 2.7 bil pod along with many other things.

http://spacejews.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3687

In my opinion the average null sec pvper can't function without a blob Roll Yet to lose a ship without them requiring one....


Because of MWD.
Shylari Avada
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#411 - 2012-11-22 01:57:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Shylari Avada
Zeus Maximo wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:


Because the odd highsec carebear that gets blobbed in his mining ship in nulsec, is a fine rep of highsec ....Blink So many nul sec players who think that they are sooo good, just because they are part of a big group and kill in blobs. Clueless. Not saying there are no good players in nulsec, because there are many......just as there are in highsec. But if people say everyone in highsec is a bad pvp carebear, then expect it to bounce back in ya face. P



You sir, speak the truth. Too many null sec pvpers claim to be gods and then come to high sec and expect to be treated as such. We recently went to null sec to see how we faired against these gods since they were always inviting us...... First day we killed a 2.7 bil pod along with many other things.

http://spacejews.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3687

In my opinion the average null sec pvper can't function without a blob Roll Yet to lose a ship without them requiring one....



I think you Overestimate how much nullsec types care about the version of PvP you enjoy (and vice versa). I also don't see any forum overflowing with null pilots proclaiming their amazing prowess at pvp over literally anyone. Small 30-45 man corps and alliances in highest however...

Edit: taking a look because I was momentarily interested, it would appear that Marmite is exactly the stereotypical 'PVP in empire' outfit that everyone in nullsec looks down on, please continue to tell us all about how much skill it takes to camp 4-4 and Amarr EFA. When you can leave a docking radius, somebody will actually listen to your opinion.
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#412 - 2012-11-22 14:29:06 UTC
Everyone is going to be at war with everyone and f*uck concord!

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7

Istyn
Freight Club
#413 - 2012-11-22 20:35:30 UTC
Shylari Avada wrote:
When you can leave a docking radius, somebody will actually listen to your opinion.


YOU CAN LEAVE THOSE!?
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#414 - 2012-11-22 23:29:00 UTC
Istyn wrote:
[quote=Shylari Avada]YOU CAN LEAVE THOSE!?
Of course, for the falcon alt(s).

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#415 - 2012-11-23 11:22:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
You seem like the classic example why I don't like certain nulsec players. First of all, you speak for entire nulsec and second you base your comments on feelings and tears instead of facts. So get your facts straight, reduce the nul ego and then reply again kid. Blink

And no, I am not saying we dont get a lot of kills on the 4-4 .... we do get a lot of kills there and also on other trade hubs. We have dedicated station huggers to annoy the ships out of you (pods too) Twisted. But we also kill a LOT of other ships in the rest of highsec. We are mercenaries and our jobs is to kill as many as possible for our clients.

http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/alliance_detail/1680888152/violent_systems/

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Shylari Avada
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#416 - 2012-11-23 20:39:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Shylari Avada
Tora Bushido wrote:
You seem like the classic example why I don't like certain nulsec players. First of all, you speak for entire nulsec and second you base your comments on feelings and tears instead of facts. So get your facts straight, reduce the nul ego and then reply again kid. Blink


I did get the facts straight, your alliance sits on Jita/Amarr and occasionally in Hek/Dodixie ganking noob ships and industrials on an undock, your proclaimed 'kills elsewhere' are less than 2% of the total kills your alliance has. For another face in GoonSwarm you sure credit me with a lot of power speaking for 8690 people (which I am not), I just thought it was funny that you were saying us 'Nullseccers look down on Empire PvPers when you clearly do it differently' when actually, you don't.

You are the stereotype.

Congratulations on that.

Tora Bushido wrote:
And no, I am not saying we dont get a lot of kills on the 4-4 .... we do get a lot of kills there and also on other trade hubs. We have dedicated station huggers to annoy the ships out of you (pods too) Twisted. But we also kill a LOT of other ships in the rest of highsec. We are mercenaries and our jobs is to kill as many as possible for our clients.


By not leaving the safety of a trade hub or the comforting caress of a docking radius, if people pay you to pew, I truly feel sorry for them- for you and your ilk are a bad investment.
ZaBob
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#417 - 2012-11-25 07:18:36 UTC
Shylari Avada wrote:
By not leaving the safety of a trade hub or the comforting caress of a docking radius, if people pay you to pew, I truly feel sorry for them- for you and your ilk are a bad investment.


I disagree. Vehemently, in fact.

If that's where the victims can be found, then that's *precisely* where they should be. I can't imagine why you would think otherwise, unless you have a certain, um, "feelings" about how things "ought to be done".

Especially if those Jita kills involve lots of ISK... I prefer facts, numbers, and results, to "feelings" like "station huging".

From where I sit, the stats speak for themselves, but are further amplified the virtual banishment of our wardecers. And if their noobs and industrials feel the pain, well, that's who our opponents were attacking, so your disdain is, um, very strange to me.

But it was hardly just their noobs and industrials. One of the Jita kills was the CEO of the executor corp of the decing alliance, in a Tempest.

I think you really are EXACTLY the classic example of which he speaks -- claiming to be in any position to judge whether his services were a good investment is completely laughable.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Ozzell Onasi
Corpus Alienum
#418 - 2012-11-25 16:45:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ozzell Onasi
Well, this alliance seems to be full of fail. I'm severly dissapointed at the lack of WT's when our corp got pulled to war against this coalition of newbs and carebears.
ZaBob
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#419 - 2012-11-25 17:02:47 UTC
Ozzell Onasi wrote:
Well, this alliance seems to be full of fail. I'm severly dissapointed at the lack of WT's when our corp got pulled to war against this coalition of newbs and carebears.



Oh, you think your WT's are obligated to make themselves available to you in locations of your choice?

Typical FAIL.
Shylari Avada
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#420 - 2012-11-25 22:39:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Shylari Avada
ZaBob wrote:
Oh, you think your WT's are obligated to make themselves available to you in locations of your choice?

Typical FAIL.


Just go shopping for them in Jita, because other systems are dangerous and stuff.

Also- Fail isn't a noun, and should never be used as such.

ZaBob wrote:
I disagree. Vehemently, in fact.

If that's where the victims can be found, then that's *precisely* where they should be. I can't imagine why you would think otherwise, unless you have a certain, um, "feelings" about how things "ought to be done".


It's not about how 'things ought to be done' and more about risk averse pubbies pretending to have something worth chest beating on forums. Killing anything in Jita- with the exception of frigates with stupid numbers of PLEX, JF's packed full of moongoo, or a capital ship that was reimbursed and claimed in Jita is pointless, irrelevant and gives no claims to skill, power or prowess.

If someone wishes to reincarnate their own version of 'The 0rphanage' that's more than fine, just don't get buttmad when you also inherit the same reputation.

ZaBob wrote:
Especially if those Jita kills involve lots of ISK... I prefer facts, numbers, and results, to "feelings" like "station huging".

From where I sit, the stats speak for themselves, but are further amplified the virtual banishment of our wardecers. And if their noobs and industrials feel the pain, well, that's who our opponents were attacking, so your disdain is, um, very strange to me.

But it was hardly just their noobs and industrials. One of the Jita kills was the CEO of the executor corp of the decing alliance, in a Tempest.


I have a feeling you and I have quite differing opinions on what constitutes 'lots of isk'. I was also not saying that EVERY kill was a shuttle or noobship, but that the MAJORITY of kills were meaningless and insignificant, especially in the common argument that primarily consists of 'we killed xxx number of ships belonging to (insert wardec'd corp/alliance here)',

In the end sure, disrupting the average joe from shopping in Jita might seem like a viable tactic, your not disrupting anything once they learn to either shop elsewhere, or use neutral alts to make courier contracts to literally anywhere else (even perimeter).

ZaBob wrote:
I think you really are EXACTLY the classic example of which he speaks -- claiming to be in any position to judge whether his services were a good investment is completely laughable.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.


Actually I am the exact polar opposite of whom he is speaking of, and by rights could honestly careless about either Dec Shield, The Marmite Collective or anything else that happens in Empire space (unless of course it consists of ganking freighters, which I rather enjoy),

Basing that his services are confined to literally 3 systems most of the time, with the strange occasion of the wandering shuttle along the routes between these systems, I would say that my assessment of his services are on point.