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HS Warfare Doctines and Compositions?
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Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#1 - 2012-11-20 05:43:05 UTC
Greetings,

Having been away from TQ for a bit, and on Buckingham and Duality alot latey [as well as a lot of time in a Cromwell on NA-S WOT... but this shall not be commented on]... I have been thinking about how HS Warfare will work after winter.

We have a great number of inexpensive T1 hulls to build wonderful fleets from, and the new tool out for fleet doctrine for corps and alliances, not to mention the past changes to war dec and the new changes to bounties [with corps and alliances being options]... it seems that HS might well be ripe for Frigate to Battleship HS fun.

Would love to hear some ideas or comments on the whole thing... It would be nice if HS finally had a well oiled way for some strategy and tactical fun...
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#2 - 2012-11-20 06:24:05 UTC
I believe the prevailing doctrine right now is "Pimpmobile + Neutral OGB x3 + Neutral RR x12"cats. It will need some revision with the changes to crimewatch, but I think it is basically sound.
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#3 - 2012-11-20 07:56:20 UTC
I meant for Larger scale groups not so much gank-antics... Maybe that is the issue with HS, it's too full of gimic's and not enough real doctrine... hmmm might be ripe for someone with some organizational skills and a decent sized group of pilots.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#4 - 2012-11-20 08:39:34 UTC
I thought it was the Permacats doctrine of deccing some fools and being entrapped into DecShield and teabagged by Pimpmobile+3xOGB Alts+12RR Alt cats.

Hisec doctrines? Its all about alts, cause you can dock anywhere to play docking games with the other dude and his alts and cronies, or you can camp gates with your RSB neutral alts and RR alts and cronies, or you can use alts to combat scan down numpties in their missions and then use orca hotswaps with your alts and cronies.

I propose Altcats Doctrine;
Take your toon and dock him in a station. Must have the mobility of Jump Clones via use of Estel Arador Corp Services and judicous use of Infomorph Psychology 4/5. You will tank with neutral RR, gain uber abilities with OGB alts as your sig-less propulsion system and deploy Spycats doctrine to ensure you already have a mole in the hapless victims corp and/or alliance in order to actually find out where your enemies are hiding.

You can counter this with Locat Doctrine (no, not LOLcat) which always worked for us. You hole up in Aridia, deepest darkest Aridia, and run lowsec exploration complexes, using a 35 jump laziness tank with active pirate hardeners to dissueade the "pro elite" hisec wardeccers from actually coming out to find you. After you have exhausted this tanking and they actually find you, you use the Wormcat Doctrine wormhole tank method, by disappearing into a C4 for a couple of weeks (plenty lying empty!) and never touch hisec or lowsec so their Locatorcats doctrine ships can't weasel your location out.

This will give you a near 100% fatality free wardec in hisec and avoid any homo which inevitably comes with hisec wars.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Kamenev Drang
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-11-20 10:14:24 UTC
People fight in hisec?
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#6 - 2012-11-20 11:03:08 UTC
If by fight you mean engage in antisocial discourse in Local and play World of Tanks until the other guy you are camping in station logs, then yes.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#7 - 2012-11-20 14:38:01 UTC
Join RvB. We fight in hi sec.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#8 - 2012-11-21 09:37:18 UTC
Kamenev Drang wrote:
People fight in hisec?



Only pussies, idiots, retards, cowards and the ****. However high sec does have the most logi pilots per combat pilot anywhere.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-11-21 11:21:19 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
Kamenev Drang wrote:
People fight in hisec?



Only pussies, idiots, retards, cowards and the ****. However high sec does have the most logi pilots per combat pilot anywhere.


Trying to figure out which of those categories Red Vs Blue falls into...

...I got nothing.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#10 - 2012-11-21 12:23:28 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
Kamenev Drang wrote:
People fight in hisec?



Only pussies, idiots, retards, cowards and the ****. However high sec does have the most logi pilots per combat pilot anywhere.


Trying to figure out which of those categories Red Vs Blue falls into...

...I got nothing.



That would be the **** and the idiots mostly.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#11 - 2012-11-21 13:24:31 UTC
Interesting... well my research is going to be interesting and fun on the proving ground in winter... hehe... THIS SHALL BE FUN!...
Cameron Zero
Sebiestor Tribe
#12 - 2012-11-21 23:10:47 UTC
Kamenev Drang wrote:
People fight in hisec?



Yes.

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. …"
Mangala Solaris
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#13 - 2012-11-21 23:12:24 UTC
Kamenev Drang wrote:
People fight in hisec?


So I heard.
Del DelVechio
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
#14 - 2012-11-21 23:22:06 UTC
Kamenev Drang wrote:
People fight in hisec?



Get in Dec Shield, get your buddies and come to Otela.....
Catalyst XI
Catalytic Holdings
#15 - 2012-11-21 23:38:28 UTC
Ive never shot anybody in highsec! i swear!