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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#81 - 2012-11-21 19:15:33 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
I have had my bike stolen IRL a lot more times then my Industrial blown up in Eve. The Eve community isn't that bad.


Well said. As in real life people's perceptions vs actual reality are usually 2 totally different things.
Nytak
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#82 - 2012-11-21 19:26:23 UTC
Lashauna wrote:

is this all EVE is about?


In a nutshell, Yes.

Longer explanation, just because you choose to hold yourself to a self-imposed moral standard, doesn't mean anybody else is, nor are there any game restrictions requiring them to do so or punishing them for not.

Attacking an solo ship incapable of defending itself.. Who is more to blame. The people who see the opportunity to progress their story in the game, or the person who enables them by not defending themselves properly?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#83 - 2012-11-21 19:49:47 UTC
Because it's more lucrative than shooting red cross.

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#84 - 2012-11-21 19:56:06 UTC
Lashauna wrote:
i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...

why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...

what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?

is this all EVE is about?






please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times

In order to actually be constructive I need to know, specifically, what ships in Eve don't have defense?

Haulers have defense. Freighters have defense. Mining barges have defense.

Any ship that has hull HP, armor HP, and shield HP has defenses.

As for why players want to kill you? In-character greed or bloodlust comes to mind.

Oh, and mining barges also have offensive capabilities.

Haulers, Blockade Runners, and Transports can, too.

Only freighters and shuttles are offenseless, as far as I'm aware.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#85 - 2012-11-21 20:24:49 UTC
Well this is eve, its internet spaceship game. It gives you some anonymity.

You know what happens to people when they realise the other fellow cant come and really punch them in face? They start acting like jerks. Its seen on internet so many times. As much players that are playing eve, theres plenty or room for those jerks as well. Ugh

But thank god, they atleast are on small minority. But you dont usually run into too much of those other people that dont prey on weak and fearfull. They dont usually advertise too much, becouse they try to avoid those same damn jerks you have run into...

Start a nood corp, advertise a bit and in couple weeks you get your first jerk griefer wardecks. Roll

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#86 - 2012-11-21 20:26:03 UTC
Dasola wrote:
Well this is eve, its internet spaceship game. It gives you some anonymity.

You know what happens to people when they realise the other fellow cant come and really punch them in face? They start acting like jerks. Its seen on internet so many times. As much players that are playing eve, theres plenty or room for those jerks as well. Ugh

But thank god, they atleast are on small minority. But you dont usually run into too much of those other people that dont prey on weak and fearfull. They dont usually advertise too much, becouse they try to avoid those same damn jerks you have run into...

Start a nood corp, advertise a bit and in couple weeks you get your first jerk griefer wardecks. Roll

No advertising necessary for "nood" corps.

They'll get all the attention.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#87 - 2012-11-21 20:27:08 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Lashauna wrote:
i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...

why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...

what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?

is this all EVE is about?






please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times

In order to actually be constructive I need to know, specifically, what ships in Eve don't have defense?

Haulers have defense. Freighters have defense. Mining barges have defense.

Any ship that has hull HP, armor HP, and shield HP has defenses.

As for why players want to kill you? In-character greed or bloodlust comes to mind.

Oh, and mining barges also have offensive capabilities.

Haulers, Blockade Runners, and Transports can, too.

Only freighters and shuttles are offenseless, as far as I'm aware.


Few come to mind: noobship, industrials, freighters, shuttle. And no freighter dont really have defence, they have buffer and we all know what happens when goons deside to suicide gank a freighter in highsec, its dead. So much for those defences you claim it to have.

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Alara IonStorm
#88 - 2012-11-21 20:41:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Dasola wrote:

we all know what happens when goons deside to suicide gank a freighter in highsec, its dead.

Would they destroy such Freighter if not for the promise of great rewards? Without rewards they still can technically gank but the chances become even rarer and in this game do not fly what you can not afford to lose.

Vengeance against them and their Corp is possible, you can gank them back with or without Kill Rights in High Sec or Hunt them in Nullsec.

If you can not muster the power it takes then you lose... at a video game.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#89 - 2012-11-21 20:43:14 UTC
Dasola wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
Lashauna wrote:
i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...

why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...

what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?

is this all EVE is about?






please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times

In order to actually be constructive I need to know, specifically, what ships in Eve don't have defense?

Haulers have defense. Freighters have defense. Mining barges have defense.

Any ship that has hull HP, armor HP, and shield HP has defenses.

As for why players want to kill you? In-character greed or bloodlust comes to mind.

Oh, and mining barges also have offensive capabilities.

Haulers, Blockade Runners, and Transports can, too.

Only freighters and shuttles are offenseless, as far as I'm aware.


Few come to mind: noobship, industrials, freighters, shuttle. And no freighter dont really have defence, they have buffer and we all know what happens when goons deside to suicide gank a freighter in highsec, its dead. So much for those defences you claim it to have.

Those defenses save the freighter from one misguided BC pilot though. Imaginary defenses could not.

Also, noobships have turret hardpoints. Industrials by and large mostly have turret hardpoints.

Bringing us back to the ones I mentioned. Freighters and shuttles.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#90 - 2012-11-21 21:16:47 UTC
Lashauna wrote:
why every where in NATURE, things always want to kill you? is this all NATURE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if you have no natural defense or offense you are hunted and and quickly eaten and sometimes by 2+ creatures...

what is the honor of attacking a creature that can not fight back? for peer status? but how can your peers look "impressed" if all you kill are defenseless creatures?

is this all NATURE is about?


Answer mine first.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#91 - 2012-11-22 07:33:12 UTC
Quote:


Few come to mind: noobship, industrials, freighters, shuttle. And no freighter dont really have defence, they have buffer and we all know what happens when goons deside to suicide gank a freighter in highsec, its dead. So much for those defences you claim it to have.

Nubships and all industrials can engage in pvp. If deep space transports could fit a turret I would be solo pvping in them against battlecruisers.
psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2012-11-22 11:47:47 UTC
Lashauna wrote:
i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...

why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...

what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?

is this all EVE is about?






please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times


there is no honor in eve

and yes its all eve is about everything revolves around blowing stuff up

you build stuff to get blown up
you make isk to buy stuff to get blown up
yes everyone wants to kill you

EvE = Everyone Vs Everyone

my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k

nop cant find it
Revajin
Doomheim
#93 - 2012-11-22 15:18:52 UTC
I developed my moral code from fortune cookies growing up so I never hurt anyone else in EVE. I just think how much I would cry if someone blew up my Noctis so when I see obvious targets I just say hello and move on BearBearBear
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#94 - 2012-11-22 16:30:28 UTC
Lets see, who has the real life mental issues?


  • The guy playing an imaginary internet spaceship game blowing up another imaginary internet spaceship in a game about imaginary internet spaceships being blown up set in a "harsh reality"?


OR


  • The guy who's imaginary, internet spaceship was just blown up accusing the dastardly fellow who blew up his imaginary, internet spaceship of having mental/psychological issues IRL because they are unable to handle that their imaginary, internet spaceship was blown up in an imaginary, internet game that specifically allows their imaginary, internet ship to be blown up by the aforementioned dastardly fellow?


hmmmm....
fukier
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2012-11-22 16:37:44 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Podkilling is a bit different, there is no gain.


i dunno about that...

you ever sell implants for a living?
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box.
fukier
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2012-11-22 16:41:16 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
We are simply doing what people have done since at least the 19th Dynasty of the Egyptian Kingdom in the late Bronze age.


is this some whitty exodus joke?
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#97 - 2012-11-22 16:46:49 UTC
fukier wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
We are simply doing what people have done since at least the 19th Dynasty of the Egyptian Kingdom in the late Bronze age.


is this some whitty exodus joke?

Before it rained frogs it rained mechant tears?
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2012-11-22 17:06:13 UTC
I do it for the isk because mining and missioning are boring as all hell.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2012-11-22 17:11:17 UTC
Its their own fault/stupidity/lack of research that they undocked/went afk without any form of tank and they deserve to get blown up otherwise they will never learn but im starting to doubt that people can learn.....

Also, there is no honor in eve.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#100 - 2012-11-22 20:19:22 UTC
To the OP. The internet is not an honorable place, don't expect eve (4chan with spaceships) to be any different.