EVE General Discussion

Thank you for your time in clarifying this important change.

Actually this one is really easy to read, so it is a good link to send people to who do not read the forums or Dev blogs.

Information on proposed Destroyer and Battleship Skill changes

Should be Battlecruiser, innit.

*sigh*

Yes but as previously stated in everything despite the fact that the prerequisite for training Racial BC will be Racial Frigate IV EVE's skill system works in such a way that if you are given Racial BC to whatever it will override the fact that in theory you haven't trained the prequisite.

Oh no it appears you are correct, I haven't looked at frigate skill training in ages.

I do apologise, the reqs are:

Racial Frig - IV
Racial Cruiser - III
Battle Cruiser - Whatever

So to get the BC V skills for all 4 races you need:

Amarr Frigate - IV
Minmitar Frigate - IV
Caldari Frigate - IV
Gallente Frigate - IV
Amarr Cruiser - III
Minmitar Cruiser - III
Caldari Cruiser - III
Gallente Cruiser - III
Battlecruiser - V


And just in case it is clear this will NOT give you any extra abilities to what you already have and, in fact, if you never plan on flying more then a single race's Battelcruisers there's no point in doing it.

If you do plan on flying all races BCs though then I'd advise to do this now simply because it will save training later as the reqs change from Cruiser III to Cruiser IV

Well, isn't it in the 90+ days range to take (in the new world) racial 0 to racial BC V for all your 'off' races?

It's not just racial cruiser to IV - it's then racial BC to V as well...

Remember, BC itself will split out too and stay the same rank. so it's probably time worth spending for everyone, unless saving 3 months holds no interest to people

Also, for completeness' sake, you might want to make clear the the requirement for Destroyers is Frigate III, not IV.

So to get the Destroyer V skills for all 4 races you need:

Amarr Frigate - III
Minmitar Frigate - III
Caldari Frigate - III
Gallente Frigate - III
Destroyer - V

Someone mentioned that you wont gain anything.. but it is my understanding that you will.

If Before the Change you have:
all 4 Racial Frig IV
all 4 Racial Cruiser III
BattleCruiser V

After the change, if I understand the devblog correctly, you will then be able to fly all 4 races Command Ships, since they stated the Cruiser 5 prereq would go away.

DO I have this wrong?

But if you train all racial cruiser to III at the moment and then train BC to V you will be able to fly all cruisers and all battlecruisers.

After the change you will STILL be able to fly all cruisers and all battlecruisers.

The only way to miss out is to have BC V but only one of the racial cruisers to III as that way you'll miss out (e.g. Amarr Cruiser III only and Battlecruiser V only gets you Amarr Battlecruiser V).

Or to train BC to less than V and then decide later you want to get it to V for more than one race (as you're effectively training it to V for 1 race at least now).

There's no way to game this change to benefit yourself, other then saving time if you want to get BC to 5 for more then once race (which you should as BC is awesome).

It's worth doing, just no-one think they are somehow going to game the system and be some sort of bad ass from doing this. The only thing it will allow you to do is fly racial battlecruisers without neccessarily having racial cruiser to IV (as it requires IV after the change but only requries III now).

No no no.

BC is ceasing to be generic.

BC will become

*Caldari BC
*Gallente BC
*Minmatar BC
*Amarr BC

Therefore if today you have Amarr cruiser III and BC V and you do nothing, after these changes, to have the OTHER BC hulls at the same skill you must train the racial cruiser to IV AND the racial BC to V.



That means you'll be needing to train EACH racial BATTLECRUISER skill too, never mind just cruiser to IV