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Being a (-10) pirate is boring.

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psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2012-11-17 20:57:57 UTC
Joseph Dreadloch wrote:
If I could magically overhaul EVE online my first change would be this:

Get rid of the current 'sec status' system and replace it with more of a traditional 'faction' system that has become popular in other MMO's these days. If you're a carebear you'll find yourself in highsec under the protection of concord, taking missions to fight pirates, or fending off belt rats as you mine. Essentially what you have now.

If you're a pirate you'll find yourself in lowsec without being engaged by NPC pirates. I mean a capsuleer ally would be extremely useful to the Guristas or Serpentis wouldn't it? You can take missions from your new pirate bros and blow up DED facilities and get separate rewards from the pirates instead.

You could have awesome pirate missions from the serpentis in which you need to smuggle drugs into highsec. They could give you some forged clearance papers that only last 10 minutes once you enter highsec, but you'd still be -10 and open to getting blown the **** up by other players.

Basically I feel that instead having -10 being a punitive thing, it should simply be the opposite end of the scale to 5.0. Outlaws should receive content that Carebears don't the same way Carebears get content the Outlaws don't. This all ties in with my views of how Lowsec is currently 'broken'.



not everything in eve is about damn missions and isk and pve some ppl just like to watch things go boom

-sec is a way of life in lo-sec get used to it stop whineing

my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k

nop cant find it
Joseph Dreadloch
Dread Space Inc.
#62 - 2012-11-17 21:08:44 UTC
psycho freak wrote:
not everything in eve is about damn missions and isk and pve some ppl just like to watch things go boom

-sec is a way of life in lo-sec get used to it stop whineing



No where in my post do I do any 'whineing', I am not a space horse sir and your accusation offends me.

If you meant 'whining' I don't really do that either. I'm a pirate myself and have been -10 ... six or seven times now, I don't remember exactly. The point of adding an ISK income option exclusive to pirates would be to drop the barrier to piracy. As it is now if you want to pirate and live in lowsec you're going to be poor as hell unless you have a second account or generous friends. Also the point of my post was that pirates should have access to just as much content as carebears, none of which stops you from 'just watching things go boom'.

I agree that 'not everything in EVE is about damn missions and PvP' however in the end... everything IS about ISK.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#63 - 2012-11-18 02:13:19 UTC
Moved from EVE General Discussion.

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Thelma Thunderfanny
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-11-18 11:31:12 UTC
The only irritating thing about being red is the itching.

o_O
SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#65 - 2012-11-18 13:57:55 UTC
Being -10 is awesome, if you don't like it and want to live in low sec...

Just stop shooting first, no sec hit for defending yourself.

Those of us who go red flashy knew the consequences of our actions, we chose the life so no point complaining.

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Killing me should be for free.
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#66 - 2012-11-19 05:43:45 UTC
The only real disadvantage to -10 is that it makes some fits impossible (or harder) to fly.
Naburi NasNaburi
Doomheim
#67 - 2012-11-19 07:40:38 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
The only real disadvantage to -10 is that it makes some fits impossible (or harder) to fly.


Out of curiosity... which fits ?
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#68 - 2012-11-19 09:29:09 UTC
Slow (webless) oversized ab fits, like the 10mn manticore which is great vs bigger ships as it can speedtank missles and is small enough to outfly medium turrets (and up) but it has no chance of beating frigates which are faster and can fully apply their dps, so if you are nonflashy and fight at gates frigates wont be able to go after you as sentry will pretty much instapop them!

Same goes for stuff like the 100mn drake/cerb and even the tengu whose one weakpoint (amongst minmatar recons) are webbing frigates which if one is a nonflashy cant do anithing due to sentrys!


(talking about gatecamp busting situations here where you stay within sentry range)


This also is true for superpimp (or dual xlasb) battleships fighting at gates!
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#69 - 2012-11-19 10:36:27 UTC
Gate guns suck. Just sayin'.

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Aggrofighter
Ghost Pirates
#70 - 2012-11-19 11:21:27 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
flakeys wrote:
He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......

Man i love momma jokes .

When i get home tonight me and your mother are going to have a serious talk about your attitude



Woow... wait until I'm done with her please, I hate beeing interrupted in the bedroom...
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#71 - 2012-11-19 11:32:29 UTC
Oregin wrote:
I'd argue that -10's should be let freely into highsec without concord intervention and


They already are.

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Trinity Angel
Victorious Secret.
#72 - 2012-11-20 15:20:44 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
Slow (webless) oversized ab fits, like the 10mn manticore which is great vs bigger ships as it can speedtank missles and is small enough to outfly medium turrets (and up) but it has no chance of beating frigates which are faster and can fully apply their dps, so if you are nonflashy and fight at gates frigates wont be able to go after you as sentry will pretty much instapop them!

Same goes for stuff like the 100mn drake/cerb and even the tengu whose one weakpoint (amongst minmatar recons) are webbing frigates which if one is a nonflashy cant do anithing due to sentrys!


(talking about gatecamp busting situations here where you stay within sentry range)


This also is true for superpimp (or dual xlasb) battleships fighting at gates!



Who in the hell told you that low sec needs to fit 0.0 crap? low sec is for well fitted tanks, not buffer crap like in 0.0.

I lived as a low sec pirate (on another char) flying a paper thin hictor fitted with speed lock mods, never had an issue (thanks to my RR mates.

You can also use small stuff when roaming for targets to catch them on belts planets etc.

now thanks to this thread im looking for a paiwat corp that needs a old fart like me. I got bored of the +5 sec.

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#73 - 2012-11-20 18:17:28 UTC
-10 for life

you're doing it wrong.
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#74 - 2012-11-20 23:45:32 UTC
Trinity Angel wrote:



Who in the hell told you that low sec needs to fit 0.0 crap? low sec is for well fitted tanks, not buffer crap like in 0.0.

I lived as a low sec pirate (on another char) flying a paper thin hictor fitted with speed lock mods, never had an issue (thanks to my RR mates.





Wait what?
Hirimatsu Yamamoto
AGGRESSIVE ASSET RELOCATION
#75 - 2012-11-21 03:25:02 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
Trinity Angel wrote:



Who in the hell told you that low sec needs to fit 0.0 crap? low sec is for well fitted tanks, not buffer crap like in 0.0.

I lived as a low sec pirate (on another char) flying a paper thin hictor fitted with speed lock mods, never had an issue (thanks to my RR mates.





Wait what?


I second that what?
QUIZZA
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#76 - 2012-11-21 10:18:08 UTC
Oh cry me a river. -10 is hard and horrible to work with/in. Well f#$k off back to hi sec or Providence and stop crying. FFS

"A Throne is but a seat covered in Velvet" Napoleon
Apoctasy
GentIeman Bastards
Something Really Pretentious
#77 - 2012-11-21 22:21:07 UTC
I think what the OP is getting at is that there should be more danger. As it stands, being -10 doesn't mean anything other than not being able to enter highsec. And that isn't even an issue; everyone has their transport alt.

If being an "outlaw" actually meant something, then things would be far more interesting. But because there is very little "law" itself in the place we are stuck in, "outlaw" means nothing. But if we could enter highsec...
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2012-11-24 19:23:50 UTC
Joseph Dreadloch wrote:
The point of adding an ISK income option exclusive to pirates would be to drop the barrier to piracy.

is it really needed?

Joseph Dreadloch wrote:

As it is now if you want to pirate and live in lowsec you're going to be poor as hell unless you have a second account or generous friends. Also the point of my post was that pirates should have access to just as much content as carebears, none of which stops you from 'just watching things go boom'.

you've chosen your path. like AFK ICE miners have chosen their path. Wouldn't you say they should have something special to not be "punished" for AFK?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#79 - 2012-11-26 14:48:06 UTC
I chose to go -10, have been -10 for years, never plan on leaving.

Its not for everyone... it takes some hard work to keep yourself actively hunting for combat.


I'm back!
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2012-11-26 14:50:57 UTC
I'd also like to add that I have never PVE'd and will never see the point of it.

Why sign online to a wonderfully designed combat-centric game and then shoot rocks or computers? THAT IS BORING.

Yet so many people I talk to say "I've never tried PVP." WHAT?

I'm back!