EVE General Discussion

I don't doubt it.

Interesting. What were you doing?

Every time I tested the new AI, the drones got a few dings and scratches (that could be repped on the spot), but none of them ever managed to explode.

THe answer is fairly simple: ask w-spacers and incursioneers how they do it. Learn what makes the AI tick and exploit it (eg. their hatred for certain remote effects that often overshadows their hatred for receiving damage).

As a missioner myself you sound like you have only ever flown BSes for a month and have under 10 mill SP for doing such things

For you I suggest T2 range ammo for blasters or to use the huge falloff of autocannons. Dont forget to fit a bunch of TEs

Ever heard of a AB or MWD? MWD blaster fit mission ships are pretty awesome, just dont leave it on. Get in their face and turn it off.

Range boat? Primary the small ships first of course. Once they start getting close enough start using drones. If your drones are having issues you clearly need better drone skills, 5 T2 drones with drone interfacing 5 will eat up most frigs pretty quick, the exceptions being the "elite" drones.

The current drone AI is hilariously ********. All they do is aggress you and keep shooting you until either one of you dies and they will sit at the same range all the time. If that NPC is set to orbit at 10km then he essentially uses "orbit at 10km" and just lets F1 do everything from there.

While Hulkageddon itself wasnt a bad thing the cost ratio was and thus CCP fixed that with some HP buffs to mining barges. If you're really paranoid fly a skiff now, it's only marginally less yield than a hulk now. You can still die in a fire to a team of 20 destroyers, but now it'll cost them much more than a single destroyer to do it.

You only gave us 6 total reasons out of 8 and and most of them overlapped with the general reason of "missions system".

Btw did you ever consider that some people don't care about the faction missions? Or that thing used to actually be worse with the occasional random courier mission?

You mentioned Rage.
And, I appreciate the facts and/or corrections.

Are you a revamped AI rat? If not, then no, I made no mention of any such rage.

Repped with what?
Remote repair modules that use high slots that the majority of ships that use drones in PVE can't spare?

With remote reps that fit into the utility highslots that many of the most popular PvE ships have (and which the dedicated drones ships have oodles of).

LoL! I'm glad he told us what he did there. I was thinking there was something in my beer.

Why do you even begin to argue with Tippia.
That person spouts so much dis-information you will go mad trying to counter.

Just accept that drones are dead as a PvE platform, and that is not going to change, unless there is an unprecedented outcry.
Well, not unprecedented, because 18 months ago we saw that happen.

But it won't happen this time because:

1. The leaders in null sec don't need to rat, since they can just skim off the top of the moon income. Hence they won't be organizing any attacks against Jita monuments.
2. Many people just don't use drones.
3. The biggest impact on this is the high sec player, and we know precisely what CCP/CSM thinks of high sec.

The only way this gets reversed is well down the road, if a significant amount of subs drop, and that effect can't be measured for months after the immediate impact. Further, if Dust is successful at cross-over subs into Eve, then the effect in subs can never be measured, and this "enjoyable feature" will remain.

Yep, definitely feels like a kick to the crotch to go for something gimped and only truly usable for missioning, just to have that taken away.

CCP, how about optional drone SP refunds? Just so that we're not kidding ourselves that they'll be good one day.