These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
123Next pageLast page
 

Changes for Retribution?

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-11-20 16:23:19 UTC
New bounty system. Place a bounty on anyone. Get 20% of the lost value when you blow up a ship or pod of someone that has a bounty on them. Go inactive for 5 months to remove the bounty from your toon, returning the ISK to the toon that put the bounty on you. Since you have to lose 5x the value of the bounty in ships to remove the bounty, this will be an excellent extortion tool.... pay me X isk, or I will put a X isk bounty on you.... Also a great way of breaking up rival corporations. Someone is recruiting too heavily? Shut them down by putting a massive bounty on their corp. No new player is going to want to join a corp that has a massive bounty on it. (I know, I know... works as designed... Except most of the shenanigans the bounty system is intended to let you get "retribution" for, is done with throw away toons.)



Changes to frigs and cruisers to give each a dedicated role... repair, probing, electronic warfare(web, scram, jam, etc). New dedicated mining frigate ORE ship. New destroyer for each race. (eventually there will be a skill split so that there will be separate destroyer and BC skills for each rice, like other ships... but this is not happening until "early 2013". When it does happen, you will get the racial destroyer skill to the level of your current destroyer skill, for any race you have frig 4+ and the BC skill of each equal to your current BC level for each race that you have cruiser 3+. )


Rats will switch targets now. Not a big deal if you solo L4s high sec, but could be a big deal for escalations like mazes.


UI changes for how locked targets are displayed.


Changes to inventory window to make up for the disaster that was the shared inventory window.



Okay, I'm sure I've missed stuff. So, what am I missing?
Doddy
Excidium.
#2 - 2012-11-20 16:26:34 UTC
crimewatch
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-11-20 16:30:56 UTC
I think you're overestimating the effect new bounties will have. Bounties will be exactly as relevant after the patch as before.
Aziesta
Binal Extensions
Xagenic Freymvork
#4 - 2012-11-20 16:36:32 UTC
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-11-20 16:37:01 UTC
Doddy wrote:
crimewatch



What is this change? Details please.
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-11-20 16:37:38 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
I think you're overestimating the effect new bounties will have. Bounties will be exactly as relevant after the patch as before.



I hope you are correct, while I fear you are not.
Doddy
Excidium.
#7 - 2012-11-20 16:40:00 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Doddy wrote:
crimewatch



What is this change? Details please.



Why don't you read the forum section where it has been discussed for the last 2 months, or maybe the dev blogs instead of cluttering up GD?
Unit CA108AF
Unit Commune
#8 - 2012-11-20 16:43:09 UTC
And if those bounty changes are right, mass unsubs will follow from casual gamers. What?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#9 - 2012-11-20 16:43:46 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Doddy wrote:
crimewatch



What is this change? Details please.



I think he is referring to how criminal flagging works, including the "suspect" status where anyone can shoot you but not Concord. Sellable kill rights also figures into that.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#10 - 2012-11-20 16:45:27 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
I think you're overestimating the effect new bounties will have. Bounties will be exactly as relevant after the patch as before.



I hope you are correct, while I fear you are not.

I don't. The whole point is for them to be more relevant for those operating on both sides of the law.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#11 - 2012-11-20 16:49:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Don't forget heavy missiles nerfed, most other missiles buffed.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Ginger Barbarella
#12 - 2012-11-20 17:09:15 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Don't forget heavy missiles nerfed, most other missiles buffed.


I've been resisting setting up a HAM Tengu, because I love my 112k Heavy range... P But since I've never done it before, I'll have to give it a whirl!!

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#13 - 2012-11-20 17:18:40 UTC
Unit CA108AF wrote:
And if those bounty changes are right, mass unsubs will follow from casual gamers. What?


And nobody will miss them.

Invalid signature format
Unit CA108AF
Unit Commune
#14 - 2012-11-20 17:19:48 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Unit CA108AF wrote:
And if those bounty changes are right, mass unsubs will follow from casual gamers. What?


And nobody will miss them.


Cause CCP doesn't care about their RL isk. Roll
Ginger Barbarella
#15 - 2012-11-20 17:20:43 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Unit CA108AF wrote:
And if those bounty changes are right, mass unsubs will follow from casual gamers. What?


And nobody will miss them.


This.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Ginger Barbarella
#16 - 2012-11-20 17:22:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginger Barbarella
Unit CA108AF wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Unit CA108AF wrote:
And if those bounty changes are right, mass unsubs will follow from casual gamers. What?


And nobody will miss them.


Cause CCP doesn't care about their RL isk. Roll


If we're talking RL here, I'm sure Dr. Whats-his-name at CCP has already factored in corporate losses on a much higher scale from the released of DUST over the first 12-18 months than from those few EveO whiners that actually quit rather than failquit over something like a minor mechanic change.


edit: speeling

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-11-20 17:23:04 UTC
Doddy wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Doddy wrote:
crimewatch



What is this change? Details please.



Why don't you read the forum section where it has been discussed for the last 2 months, or maybe the dev blogs instead of cluttering up GD?



Sorry. Just recently returned to game after a year away. Trying to catch up.


I read the dev blog twice, and here is what I came up with.

1) if you steal, anyone can shoot you, not just the corp you stole from.
2) Logi pilots will no longer be able to just jump through the gate and back when they get targeted in PVP...
3) Selling kill rights
Unit CA108AF
Unit Commune
#18 - 2012-11-20 17:24:45 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Unit CA108AF wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Unit CA108AF wrote:
And if those bounty changes are right, mass unsubs will follow from casual gamers. What?


And nobody will miss them.


Cause CCP doesn't care about their RL isk. Roll


If we're talking RL here, I'm sure Dr. Whats-his-name at CCP has already factored in corporate losses on a much higher scale from the released of DUST over the first 12-18 months than from those few EveO whiners that actually quit rather that failquit over something like a minor mechanic change.


Except this isn't a minor mechanic change. It's basically giving griefers a free pass to not be Concorded for as long as they have isk.

That's not minor.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#19 - 2012-11-20 17:28:48 UTC
Unit CA108AF wrote:
Except this isn't a minor mechanic change. It's basically giving griefers a free pass to not be Concorded for as long as they have isk.

That's not minor.


Yo, bounty doesn't equal kill rights. Learn2read otherwise you can have trouble finding that unsub button you love so much.

Invalid signature format
Ginger Barbarella
#20 - 2012-11-20 17:29:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginger Barbarella
Unit CA108AF wrote:

That's not minor.


We'll have to agree to disagree. This is minor in the larger scale of things. It will most likely get changed within 6 months as soon a CCP sees how much it'll be abused, and absolutely nothing of consequence will come from the change. How many times have the failquitter calls gone out in the last year? I personally doubt whether any numbers of any real consequence left the game permanently at those times. Tactics and play styles changed, and they will again.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
123Next pageLast page