EVE General Discussion

i am not here to shed noob tears or anything of that matter, i just want an answer to a question...

why every where in EVE, people always want to kill you? is this all EVE is all about? who can kill who first?

even if your ship have no defense or offense you are targeted and and quickly destroyed and usually by 2+ players...

what is the honor of attacking a ship that can not fight back? for killboard stats? but how can your killboard look "good" if it is full of defenseless ships?

is this all EVE is about?






please note: i would prefer constructive responses, otherwise do not waste both of our times

oh you thought the game was about being ~honourable~? well, it's not

What part of "cold, harsh universe" you don't understand?

EDIT: lol at honor in Eve and lack of defense/offence is your fault and you should be punished for it.

Yes.

It is an important service to save power consumption on gates.

We are simply doing what people have done since at least the 19th Dynasty of the Egyptian Kingdom in the late Bronze age.

EVE is a 'blow stuff up' game. Everything about the game requires ships to be blown up. There are a million reasons why things are the way they are right now in this game. I'm not sure it can be fixed.

Space ships FPS best FPS.

Honor is not a thing that matters in EVE, you can have and it is valuable to who trusts you and your own sense of what is right and wrong but it is absolutely critical to understand that it has 0 relevance to other people who have their own scale of what they do.

Some people play this game as hero's, some villains, some neutral and some it is all business. Some are petty thugs and extortionist, others are syndicate bosses or warlords. Whatever the case the reality is that these people exist and precaution is key to make sure they don't break you.

Precaution against economic attacks.

* Tank your Ship. My Haulers go out with 50 Million ISK per 10K EHP and I don't leave slots unfit that can help me. I buy different ships for Cargo Capacity and Tank depending the value per m3 of Cargo
* Read Contracts, read every word and check every item.
* If something is small and very valuable it goes in a Maller or Drake instead of a stuffed Hauler and is sent separate like 200mil ISK Implants.
* If I do not have the Tank to Cargo Ratio needed I hire someone who does this professionally.

Precaution against random attacks.

* Wrap your Pod. Fitting a ship around your pod is a big deal, a Shuttle T1 Frigate or Rookie Ship can Pop but nothing of value is lost. Clone Costs and what you put in your head is valuable.
* Tank your Ship as best you can.

Precaution in General.

* I keep sizable amount of my assets either liquid or invested in items in safe stations, so when I undock if I am a victim that day I can afford the loss comfortably.
* I always have a back up or two to something important. A Mission Ship, PvP Boat, Hauler or Barge I either have more or ISK for more ready to go.
* Keep your savings on a same account alt and cash on hand for purchase on your main. A miss click in the market or on a contract and you are covered. Still be ever vigilant making sure that doesn't happen but if it does you don't break the bank by draining everything.

EVE isn't hard if you take precaution. The best analogy to survival: Don't walk around with a $1000 in Bills in your pocket, keep most of your Assets in the Bank and always wear a Seat Belt(Tank). You may get knocked down but with proper management never knocked out.

Sure you can not do some of that but that is Risk and while Risk can be profitable there is a chance of it going sideways so be prepared. Losing is never a non option.

See, this is where your problem is. The way PvP works in Eve leaves very little room for anything usually considered honourable. Getting your opponent to engage you and then call in friends is almost always the best way to do things. If you think that's not honourable then consider the alternative, two people engage 1 vs 1 using the same ship. The one with the more skillpoints has the "unfair advantage", so it's still not fair. You can PvP against greater numbers but it means catching them in a situation where they are basically useless for example damp fleets kiting at range with a long point, or SB squads firing of bombs and then buggering off before they can be locked, or sniper alpha ships killing a few ships and then warping at distance again.

Basically, there is no fair in Eve. To me honourable is just being nice despite how or who your blowing up. I say gf even after I have been totally ganked. Just to be a good sport.

Because it works that way with most PvP, the same kind of approach is generalised against all ships. If a hauler gets killed, its because they have put themselves in a situation in which they are likely to get killed (most of the time). Also, killing a hauler can mean lots of ISK if you happen to kill the right one.

Yesterday the most amusing thing happened. Some drake was camping a gate in Gonditsa and has just shot at and destroyed an Indy ship coming through, so we jumped through shortly after and ganked him. At which point he claimed what we did was unfair because he had gate-gun fire and was alone (even though that system had 6 people in his corp, active and in PvP ships in space). Now obviously this guy is just a tool, but it's easy to see things as unfair everywhere, but if you dont look at it like that you'll enjoy Eve more.

TL:DR All is fair in love, war and Eve.