Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It's not a strawman, it is comparative analytics. EvE is the only MMO I know of that both has 'open' PvP and tells you exactly who is in your area and everything about them. The purpose behind Local being absolute immediate was to promote the social side of the game, which it has no bearing on 99.9875% of the time.

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You should read more of my posts before resorting to ad hominem posting. You might find we actually agree more than not.



You know how we deal with dependency in the real world? Rehabilitation, not facilitation.



I think the System Scanning Array should make a come back for Sovereignty Holders. That would be a massive boon to those alliances when coupled with my D-Scan Plan.

Question: Would the in game map still be able to show average pilots in space in the last 30 mins?

This is one of the most useful tools for finding fights and I've heard complaints that null is too target free and somehow removing local is suggested to fix this, as always using a logic that makes no sense. Risk aversion is the reason you don't see a thousand targets on any given day, I suspect removing local would increase risk aversion rather than decreasing it as people would stick to better known space nearest their backup. What happens when you jump into a system and have no local and your outgate is 15AU or farther away, you don't know if there's bubbles and insadeath on the far gate and do you really want to warp to a celestial nearer the gate and scan from there every time. What happens when the gate is too far from anything else and there is no possibility of scanning the gate short of warping to it (rare but not unheard of) these will be the gates you will find those surprise drag bubbles. Finally the "threat" posed by "AFK" cloakers will be that much more imaginary (now not only are they always watching, but they are also in EVERY system in the game will be the mentality of those who are already paranoid of them). I suspect that these factors would quickly inhibit travel more than encourage it as not being able to instantly tell that there are other people in system will lead to more cautious behavior rather than blazing in head first and hoping for the best. I would suggest that not controlling 4278958024 systems simply because you can and allowing more smaller alliances to try to move in would make it more target rich if that IS what you're really after.

I typically like to take wormholes to null when I do go and the first ship I exit with is pretty much without exception fitted with Covops because if the first system I come out in is heavily populated I do not wish my ship or entry method to be found too quickly. That means that if you take local away and you don't d-scan in the 2 seconds I'm visible or the exit is off scan from where you are the first clue you will ever get that I've come in will be when I decloak and point your bling fit ratting ship. Great for me but when you go into carebear mode when you need isk and that happens to you the river of tears will be epic. There's no way you're getting intel on me doing that as no one has any way to know that I've gotten past your alliance's eyes and who are you going to get to probe out all the wormholes in all the space you occupy and be constantly vigilant for the K162 I create when I show up and will not be probeable by your ships until seconds before I jump through. But frankly I like the idea of the best stealth kill available in EVE online as you'll have no clue I'm there to kill you until I'm in the room with you. Scared yet?

Either way remove local or don't, I can roll with anything but I promise you my search for a low class wormhole with a nullsec static will intensify if you get this to happen. As is often the case where I feel divorced from the outcome of an issue, I have plans whether it happens or not but I caution you something like this will almost certainly not work out the way you envision it. Try to think very hard outside the box about how a fundamental mechanical change might affect you, chances are you haven't thought of everything and someone who plays differently may use your suggestion in a way you don't like and did not predict. Again I'm not saying to remove local or not, I'm just saying you make sure you know exactly what you're asking for.

You can but it's slow, you find them on d-scan and if they are towards a planet add towers/forcefields to your overview and scan at multiple ranges and if you lose both the tower and the ship at the same range reduction, it's 99.9% likely the ship is on the tower. Again it's slow and inelegant and as d-scan works currently if the ship is not on the pos when you start scanning it will be by the time you find it.

In general, you can safely assume that certain ship types will always be on a POS if you find them towards a planet anyway and not really worth checking, if the ship is often used as a ratting ship it's worth checking and be mindful of the number of celestials around the planet you're scanning, that will also help you determine if the ship is likely on a POS.

EDIT: If you see a tower and no forcefield go loot the damn thing, it's offline. So make sure you add both.

I have FFs on.

1) It still takes time to narrow down each ship
2) A pos can be collinear with numerous stations, belts, planets, pocos, etc