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Corps seem difficult to find.

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BJ McGreaves
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-11-19 13:02:26 UTC
One thing I keep hearing people say, whether it is in rookie chat or these forums is for new players to join a corp. In the recruitment forum, almost every corp that seems like it is at least partially developed, require you to have between 4-10 million skill points to even be considered. Is this normal? As a new player, how do I go about finding a player corp that isn't going to be filled with noobs like myself?


On a related note, how to leave this garbage NPC corp that I"m in? I've read they take like 10% of your isk that you earn.
Berluth Luthian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-11-19 13:08:19 UTC
To leave your current NPC corp, you have to join another corp. The 10% they take is only from mission money or money from bounties on rats you kill. Anything you sell on the market wont be taxed at such a high rate. This makes looting and salvaging a more worthwhile skill at low SPs.

As far as finding a corp with no SP requirement, but also isn't a noob corp I would guess that those two things are counter-productive. I'd say skill into a specific class of ship, make a name for yourself, and start advertising your success.
DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-11-19 13:09:06 UTC
Join our channel 'avp recruit' ingame to see if you would fit in with us.

You can also use the ingame corp finder. It is a great tool to look for a new corp.

Also make a post on the recruitment forums and advertise yourself in the ingame recruitment channel, people will come to you.

Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#4 - 2012-11-19 13:12:17 UTC
All else fails or you just want to tax dodge, create your own corp - only costs about 1.5 million isk to do so.

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DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-11-19 13:13:58 UTC
Hazen Koraka wrote:
All else fails or you just want to tax dodge, create your own corp - only costs about 1.5 million isk to do so.


You are doing it wrong.

Put some effort into finding a good corp and you will enjoy eve a lot more. Corp operations, friends, drama, ... None of that is possible if you are alone in your own corp.

Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-11-19 13:21:31 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
BJ McGreaves wrote:
One thing I keep hearing people say, whether it is in rookie chat or these forums is for new players to join a corp. In the recruitment forum, almost every corp that seems like it is at least partially developed, require you to have between 4-10 million skill points to even be considered. Is this normal? As a new player, how do I go about finding a player corp that isn't going to be filled with noobs like myself?


On a related note, how to leave this garbage NPC corp that I"m in? I've read they take like 10% of your isk that you earn.


1.) You can only leave your NPC School (the corp you start in) by:

* Joining another player runned corp
* Make your own corp (though personally won't suggest doing that as a new player cause of different reasons).
* Join a FW NPC corp (though they too have 11% tax - like all NPC corps).

2.) Those 4-10mil SP limits are there for couple of reasons:

* To try to avoid throw away spy alts
* To make sure that you get people in who stick with the game (not trial guys who just don't sub and fill your corp with inactive players who won't return).
* To make sure that your members have a bit of knowledge about the game
* To make sure that your members can be self sufficient (specially in place with PvP, Null and WH corporations - they hate that they have to help you with everything and hold your hand whenever you log on).

Though they say these SP limits are strict, 99% of them are very flexible.
It's just so they don't have to manage 100 people who clearly don't get in, but if you are below the limit and do think you have what it takes, join their public channel and talk to them.

If you show good attitude and show them why YOU should be the exception to their rules, they likely will make it.

Also there are plenty of new player friendly corporations (new player friendly =/= noob corp) which are there to help new players. These corps are filled with both new players (as they are new player friendly, how obvious) but also have older players and a decent leadership structure.

There are also a lot of noob corps, these are made and completely filled with new players who themself are also still learning the game. Usually these corporations don't last long ore wonder around EVE like headless chickens.

When looking for a corp, read this thread, might help you: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16943&find=unread

Also, just keep in mind, you DON'T have to join a corp in EVE. EVE should be played in a way you like it, if that means sticking in a NPC corp, then do it. Being social and having friends isn't restricted by being in a player corp. There are plenty of NPC corp dwellers with a long list of friends in EVE and who they can play with.

3.) Default NPC tax is 11%.

Player corp means players set the tax. And if you think 11% is already much, many many player corps (specially those who have a POS or are in null-sec etc) have 15% or more.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-11-19 13:25:54 UTC
Hazen Koraka wrote:
DeBingJos wrote:
Hazen Koraka wrote:
All else fails or you just want to tax dodge, create your own corp - only costs about 1.5 million isk to do so.


You are doing it wrong.

Put some effort into finding a good corp and you will enjoy eve a lot more. Corp operations, friends, drama, ... None of that is possible if you are alone in your own corp.


1/10 but valid points about joining a good corp.


Though I agree with Jos.

Making a private 1 man corp to avoid taxes will mean you likely grow bored in EVE over time. So it should be a very last resort.

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Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-11-19 14:21:38 UTC
I would use the ingame tool to find a corpo.
On the forums you will mostly find selective announces or spams from people who take anyone without caring as long as their number increase.
There are a lot of new pilot friendly corporations. I think that the best criterium is to find one which is often organizing activities in common (fleets to mine or rat or mission or roam or whatever you are interested in), and active in your timezone.
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-11-19 14:49:15 UTC
Try to contact the corp in question regardless. If you make friends with some of their members or get one of their officers vouching for you many corps will turn a blind eye to the sp requirements if you have common sense, are a team player, and are eager to learn.
Lyric Lahnder
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-11-19 15:32:51 UTC
Try Eve University
or Red vs Blue

Good places to start.

Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.com I Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers.

Ferrari Pilot
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-11-19 15:33:55 UTC
Lyric Lahnder wrote:
Try Eve University
or Red vs Blue

Good places to start.


I'm thinking about putting up a corp, you could join it if you want.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-11-19 15:35:51 UTC
Lyric Lahnder wrote:
Try Eve University
or Red vs Blue

Good places to start.


These 2 are great.

But the main first thing you might want to ask yourself is

What do I like to do in EVE?

Once you have answered / can answer that, you can find a corp that does the same thing as what you like to do and join them.
This way you don't end up as a miner among PvP guys, as a PvP guy among station traders etc. etc.

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-11-19 15:37:38 UTC
Ferrari Pilot wrote:
Lyric Lahnder wrote:
Try Eve University
or Red vs Blue

Good places to start.


I'm thinking about putting up a corp, you could join it if you want.



Why do I get the feeling that we got a known person among the older people here...

As for his post, also read this...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=173889&find=unread

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

BJ McGreaves
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-11-19 15:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: BJ McGreaves
Thanks for all the pointers and information.

I think after doing some reading I'm going to start skilling towards being a logistics pilot. After I get some core and basic skills of course that seem to be important for any ship. Logistics may be fun, I've always enjoyed support roles.

The impression I've gotten so far is that many corps are short on logistics pilots, so hopefully someone we'll pick me up after I skill out some more.

Thanks.
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-11-19 20:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Fractal Muse
BJ McGreaves wrote:
Thanks for all the pointers and information.

I think after doing some reading I'm going to start skilling towards being a logistics pilot. After I get some core and basic skills of course that seem to be important for any ship. Logistics may be fun, I've always enjoyed support roles.

The impression I've gotten so far is that many corps are short on logistics pilots, so hopefully someone we'll pick me up after I skill out some more.

Thanks.


I did that. :)

I planned out my logistics skill progression and followed it.

But, note, if you skill purely for logistics you won't be very combat heavy and you may have hard time earning ISK alone. I actually played EVE online for about two and a half years with under a million skill points in my weapon skills.

What I did was join a corporation (what people post here about corporations being flexible about skill points is very true - the skill point requirement is really just a corp being lazy and I would, as a whole, suggest avoiding those corps anyway) and I helped in fleets with a logistics cruiser. I also did an awful lot of salvaging.

In fact, I did so much salvaging that even today I love to salvage. The salvage mini-game is one of the best ones (if not the best) in the game for me.

Yes, logistics pilots are always wanted. A good way to learn how to fly logistics 'well' is to find some people to run incursions with when you can handle that but that'll be in the future.

Try to plan out your character skills so you will be doing something fun (for you) all the way through the duration of the plan. Do not plan out a skill plan that involves a period of waiting where you won't be having fun. There are some skills that will take a month to train up so make sure you can be flying and being happy during that time. For me, while building up my skills, it was being a salvager. But, a lot of people don't enjoy salvaging as much as I do. :)
BJ McGreaves
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-11-20 02:00:05 UTC
In an effort not to spam this helpful forum with a bunch of threads, I'd like to ask a few unrelated questions.


1.) I keep getting messages from people who ask me if I'm on a 14 day trial right now. I respond yes. They then always say the something along the same line: Activating my account using the buddy program, getting my 14 days extended to 21 + if I spend $9.99 it gives me a total of 51 days...they then offer a few hundred million isk if I do so.

This a scam? I see it over and over. Whats in it for them? I've seen the term "plex fishing" floating around.

2.) What is a good minmatar PvE cruiser? I'm at the point where I can afford one, albeit I lack the proper skills at this point to fly it. That being said, whats a solid PvE minmatar cruiser that I can use for general missions to make isk with?

That is all I have right now, I'll probably have more later.

Thanks for all the help.
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-11-20 03:13:01 UTC
BJ McGreaves wrote:
In an effort not to spam this helpful forum with a bunch of threads, I'd like to ask a few unrelated questions.


1.) I keep getting messages from people who ask me if I'm on a 14 day trial right now. I respond yes. They then always say the something along the same line: Activating my account using the buddy program, getting my 14 days extended to 21 + if I spend $9.99 it gives me a total of 51 days...they then offer a few hundred million isk if I do so.

This a scam? I see it over and over. Whats in it for them? I've seen the term "plex fishing" floating around.

2.) What is a good minmatar PvE cruiser? I'm at the point where I can afford one, albeit I lack the proper skills at this point to fly it. That being said, whats a solid PvE minmatar cruiser that I can use for general missions to make isk with?

That is all I have right now, I'll probably have more later.

Thanks for all the help.


1. They get an in game time card (PLEX) for "getting one of their friends to sub", they then sell this plex on the market for several hundred million they then turn around and split the isk with you. You get a reason to sub under them instead of somebody else, and they get isk for little work at all. Just try not to spend it all at once and don't let early game riches make you forget the effort it takes to earn isk in the first place


2. I want to say a rupture, but I only use minmatar ships in pvp so other people are better equipped to give you specifics
BJ McGreaves
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-11-20 04:06:38 UTC
Zanzbar wrote:


1. They get an in game time card (PLEX) for "getting one of their friends to sub", they then sell this plex on the market for several hundred million they then turn around and split the isk with you. You get a reason to sub under them instead of somebody else, and they get isk for little work at all. Just try not to spend it all at once and don't let early game riches make you forget the effort it takes to earn isk in the first place



How do I know that they will actually pay up?

I'm sorry, stuff like this on the internet always makes me naturally suspicious, it's paid off in the past.
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-11-20 05:22:28 UTC
2) Yes the rupture is great for PvE (missions lvl2, exploration, ratting...) but as many Minmatar ships, it will ask you more SP than in the other races : Drones, projectiles and missiles !
With the Rupture you're on the way to Hurricane and Typhoon, which are both based on the same idea and great ships too. They are harder to train but they allow you do to so much, i think it's a good investment if you like them.
Keno Skir
#20 - 2012-11-20 06:30:07 UTC
Ferrari Pilot wrote:


I'm thinking about putting up a corp, you could join it if you want.


The hell wants to share a corp with you troll face.
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