EVE General Discussion

Chribba you've been around a long time too, whats your perception of how the community has changed?

well, normaly i dont forum too much too serieus but letme tell you something that might be reconizable for you. I have played for almost 5 yrs non stop 2-5 hours of eve aday. This was in the time that not much game imporvemnts were done. To not troll ccp or be rude mad or whatever i keep it to my personal opinions now. I felt for quet a while neglected. Like horrible "i dont want your anyway", neglected. But i was addiced to this wonderfull fun game. I mean love it. Done most things someone could do in eve. From one side i want to play this game but overtime i traded all my positive associations with this game for bad associations. Negative ones. So basicly everytime i loaded on eve, subcontionious it got a negative charge in my brain (are you still following me? srry my english could be poor sometimes, but meh who cares rly if you understand me? exept the troll to troll trolls.. lols). These negative associations were enhanced by poor communications and qlueless & pointless new changes (like cloths are more important than unbalanced ships right? & the supercap whoopsy). These associations are realy hard to change on a mind level, its some psyco stuff (dont rly want to bore you too much with it). If you would analyse player statsics and the outflow of old players there is not only new implenmentations and communication important, also the direct play environment and what people associate with that. I will be giving a direct example that prolly get trolled but its how it works on a psycic level. Tech is unbalanced, many people still associate tech with ccp failur (favouritism ect). A direct concequence of this failure is Test & hbc in the south. Southrn players associate all the trolling of test and they just being there due ccp failure. Basicly they load the negative associations from the direct play environment (experiancing on first level, seeing someone in system or fleeting against it ect, you get the point). On a psycic level the game turned into crap because of repeatable failure. It isnt that bad if it gets reconnized and such but if neglected than the synargy (htf do i write with without using a translator :p) is again neglection and in the brain you take it more serious and more real (authentic) and thus addic more subcontious value to that. But this is on a negative way. Its bad, it makes you dont even want to undock and you ask yourselve..... why boot i this game up and dont want to undock anymore? Like you want to play the game but once you reconize it, something triggers in the brain that makes you load the negativity and thus bye bye your will to play. Since eve targets a clever high intellegence target group that is smart and have good memories its rly a bad situation. Like rly bad. Its like apple losing its apple stores. Add the social aspect, butterfly aspect and the communication possiblilities (teamspeak, vent ect) and you can compare it to a flue. Everytime something bad get implementend it go's around again and it enhanced the association on a positive or negative way. So the circle is round. In short too many negative associations with the game environment makes old people leave. In addiction to the negative association factors i can rly recommend ccp to fix certain stuff really quick. Like tech, supers, broken, goons (you were warned with tech change ccp, sack the devteam who's idea it was), sov system ect that directly influence the older vert generations area's, like 0.0. Basicly im personaly predicting that it will continue untill these stuffs are fixed or eve drops below its activity break even point where its outflow is bigger than its imput and isnt fixable anymore.

So meh, in short,.... i should get payed for doing ccp's work of finding this stuff out

I've been playing for around 4 years and am the oldest of my current friends and corp. some of my members I have recruited as day old players. It's good to see them as solid members of the group now. New members are a good thing as long as we train them right.

i know, dont care, its full with horrible grammar failre aswell... meh who cares lols

Oh I dont judge grammar and such, not everyone was taught english in school. Was suggesting you use fewer words to state your opinion then more will read it. Was constructive criticism

hehe I dont need it, help a newbie instead

Well wth else are they supposed to do when many Corps worth a damn want ridiculous amounts of SP or some ridiculous and complicated application process to join?? Many of us noobs don't CHOOSE to play alone, it's just the way it's done until we find an active corp that doesn't require a blood test to be a member and actually trains its noobs, and doesn't just recruit us to swell their numbers.

So not being able to fly effectively makes you a "window licker"?

See this is the vet mentality that I'm talking about.

And the thing is YOU were once one of those ignorant window lickers you despise to much, but now that you know the game you want to crap on everyone else still climbing up. It's lame, ridiculous and will kill the game eventually because those noobs you despise? They keep the game running. There is no EVE without us. So keep talking down to us and treating us like s**t. We will stop coming and the damn game will die. Then you'll be a bittervet with nothing to do and your wife will actually have to start spending time with you now.

imo I would like to say that it's only become better, but I feel it's not what it used to be. I still think it's amazing but it's heading in a way that I'm not super happy about.

But overall I do believe we have an amazing and great community with lots of colors and flavors that few other games will ever achieve.

/c

Same issue, exacly!!! It took me some time to figur out what i dont like anymore but its drawing me back most of the time. Guess i need to find a good chill corp to hang out and do what i used to like, farming bears and collecting tears instaed of hearding sheeps and manage director ish stuff & recruitment :recepyforburnout: