EVE General Discussion

This may be the first time some players have run into it. But I'm also highlighting its stupidity right after we were promised more open communication.

And pointing out that they did not mean a thing they said. And that hilmars apology is just more lip service and he never meant it.

I have not read this thread and I am not going to either.

Just to throw my 5 cents:

Tactics went wrong (leeching resources from the one paying pool of customers to fond other ambitios projects).

Things get set straight (From a business perspective) where the original river og milk and honney gets strengthened out and continued to be developed further while some other ambitious project gets put on hold.


Some people got layed off and the echonomy isn't all that great for the time being.... The people left should be thankfull for the fact that CCP actually takes responsibility and tries to survive by reverting to know successfull tactics instead of pushing it further and face certain doom where all loose their jobs and we loose this game.

To the whining part of the community: G.T.F.O. (Socialism and whining bastards will be the end of us all!)

To the sad part of CCP staff: H.T.F.U. (Those departed: U got skills, no problem. U got no skills, you didn't belong in CCP in the first place / Those remaining: Thank god you management have the balls to save your company and this game by making hard and unpopular desicions.)

TLDR: I am glad we are still going to have a game called Eve. Screw the rest.

Multiple angled statement ahead

I don't understand why people are so shocked and surprised about staff from the community relations team being on the chopping block.

It was after all a community backlash that caused all this.
Something that is there job to see and help/influence/interpret, that they failed right?

And the backlash was over the NeX content and CQ, both of which are predominantly from the carbon WoD teams.. and what a shock they have been chopped too.

That at least is my hope, that those who ARE responsible for the whole thing are the ones being axed, but my brain tells me that's probably not the case.

But another perspective.

Me and my accounts left EVE long before all the NeX protests, a year and a half ago.
And after coming back to try it all again (yup would of been sooner but NeX had an impact on me returning), I have been utterly underwhelmed by the changes.
This game is principally one of flying ships around, and in that 18 months whats new on that front?
A few salvaging ships woopy f'in doo.
Seriously I think CCP should look at that reason for why it all went **** up.
In that time you haven't done anything of significance to improve the basic content of the game, that of flying spaceships.
Of course people will eventually be up in arms about something.

For those fired, good luck.
If you were good at your job and lost it anyway deep sympathy.
If not.. well meh.

tl/dr Good people loosing jobs bad, bad people loosing jobs great. Now get on with some more spaceship content CCP its what your cash cow is all about.

How typical. Upper managent screws up and the lowers have to pay. Hey, Hilmar. Where is your loss? What are you giving up? Disgusting!

And what's-yer-face above that commented on Socialism = bad. STFU. Every single society, by definition, is a form of Socialism. It's not a question of "Do we want socialism?" it is a question of "How much Socialism do we want?" I am so sick of The Stupid.

Reprinted from my blog, which I would link to, except the forums generate a BBCODE parse error if you have a url tag + a percent sign anywhere in the post.

The 20%, the 79%, and the 1%

By now everyone will have heard the news that CCP is slashing their staff by about 20%.

First of all, I want to express my condolences to the 20%, many of whom are going through the roughest time in their professional careers. Some of them I knew personally, and they will be missed.

Second, I want to express my sympathies towards the 79%, the remaining staff who, in the coming months, either implicitly or explicitly, are going to be pressured to work longer and harder to help CCP recover from the consequences of disastrous strategic decisions that they had little or no voice in.

And finally, I have a few questions for the 1%, the top staff at CCP who made those decisions.

* Have you really accepted that this is your fault, or do you still cling to the illusion that this is the fault of "pesky" players who just don't understand your awesome vision, and who should feel honored to be permitted to pay you to implement it?

* Are you really sincere about this change of direction by CCP, or do you consider the refocusing on EVE just a temporary bump in the road?

* Have any of you accepted responsibility, either by resigning, accepting demotion, or taking a pay cut?

I wonder what the chances are that any of the above questions can be answered by a "yes"?

20%...? 79%...? or 1%...?

lol I cant link to the forums here cause "posts cannot contain html" even though its a copy/pasted link to another thread in General.... good job web team.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=220213#post220213

this thread annoys me because its more of those people that swallow what CCP is saying to us when its their actions we should be watching not our words. One thing I damn sure learned from Hilmar.

Holy ****, it only took me 4 tries to get that link to post

+1

Yeah, there seems to be a lot of forum issues today.

We don't always see eye to eye, but I generally agree with your point in that thread.

However, I also understand that there isn't a whole lot they can actually "do" (as in give to us) until the next expansion... other than the silly ship spinning thing so many people got worked up about.

As to the rest, you know where I stand.

I think CCP did a horrible job with this whole situatiion... including their selections for termination.

On the other hand, I think the EVE community handled their reaction to things pretty poorly as well. The phrases "over reaction", "immaturity", and "easily manipulated" come to mind.

Still, it is what it is. We'll see what gets followed through on in this next release, if I can stomach the "back patting" from the community... the chopping of heads at CCP to keep their heads above water... and the victory rolls from the forum trolls long enough to get there.

I only have one question, and maybe someone else asked it already (but 30 pages - come on... I have a job after all!)

If your resources are stretched too thin, then why did you just let 20% of them go while not reducing the number of active projects?

As a Project Controls Analyst for an EPC firm, this not only doesn't make any sense, but doesn't bode well for ANY of those ongoing projects.

When project demand has exceeded the maximum available output from your productive resources, you either reduce demand, or increase resources. You've decreased resources, while basically saying, "We're still going to keep working on everything" and "we'll be able to do things quicker."

How do ya figure?? I'd tend to suggest at this point that you, as well as your customers, are screwed. And I get big bucks to reach those kinds of conclusions...

If you need some professional project management assistance, let me know - though I'm not exactly sure you're a viable company to work for at this point...

Don't worry - I'll keep paying my memberships as long as there's still a game to play. :)

Vipieris

So your cutting people and continuing all development because you"re stretched too thin? I realize you're slowing development on one front but how does that even make sense? Is this a Jita scam?

What you need to do is reduce your expansion schedule to one a year. Instead of releasing content that isn't finished and that breaks the continuity of the game. Like having Minmatar CQs in Amarr, caldari, and Gallente stations.