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Books or movies featuring governments similar to the Caldari State?

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terzslave
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-18 09:37:27 UTC
Hey guys, so since starting this game, the lore of the Caldari State has always interested me and I was wondering , what books or movies out there heavily feature countries owned by mega corporations. Are there alsp any non-fiction texts discussing the idea of state run capitalism or the idea of countries being run by corporations?
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2012-10-18 13:10:28 UTC
I know a lot of people draw inspiration for the Caldari from the Shadowrun RPG setting. You can also take a look at some books like Neuromancer by William Gibson and Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson.

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Horatius Caul
Kitzless
#3 - 2012-10-18 13:22:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Horatius Caul
You should read Jennifer Government by Max Barry. It's sort of a comedic dystopian alt-present where everything in america is privatized.

It's worth keeping in mind that the Caldari state isn't a country with megacorporations in it, it's several megacorporations who decided to make a country. There hasn't really been anything comparable in human history, but some of the old mercantile trade leagues of the middle ages such as the Hanseatic League and Venice, as well as the later East India Company could be worth checking out.
CCP Headfirst
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2012-10-18 15:59:24 UTC
I've always said that the Caldari State is a lot like Detroit. It's an industrial state ruled not by a government, but by a handful of mega corporations.

In Detroit, MI, the CEOs of GM, Ford, and Crysler have way more influence, power, and wealth than the mayors, representatives, or governor.

Also, just walking around the city will reveal that it has the same ruthless efficiency of the Caldari State, where buildings, transportation, and overall engineering of the society are built for function, not form. This was especially apparent after moving to Atlanta (and joining CCP): The streets here are a nightmare, a twisting labyrinth of nonsense, where half the roads are named "Peachtree." From the air, all of Michigan looks like a graph paper, an evenly-spaced grid of logic.

Hope that helps!
Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union
Hatakani Trade Winds Combine
#5 - 2012-10-19 09:18:56 UTC
Perhaps you should try the "Shadowrun" universe.

It plays in a high-tech world ruled bye megacorporations, but magic is also present / returns. It's Cyberpunk with Fantasy elements actually. Very special, some good books, some very bad books, not everyone likes it.
Roga Dracor
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#6 - 2012-10-27 17:08:54 UTC
The Zaibatsu is arguably a real world inspiration for the Caldari State..

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.

Idris Maelfa
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#7 - 2012-10-27 20:51:33 UTC
Horatius Caul wrote:

It's worth keeping in mind that the Caldari state isn't a country with megacorporations in it, it's several megacorporations who decided to make a country..


It could be argued that The East India Company tried to do just that.
Ryakel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-11-06 16:32:35 UTC
Came here to recommend Jennifer Government.

That being already recommended, I would suggest another one of Max Barry's works, 'Company'.

It's light reading but I think it does a pretty good job of turning the bland, corporate, yes-men dichotomy on it's head.

Go Max Barry.

Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-11-08 23:46:16 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_2020

That's all you need.

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Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#10 - 2012-11-10 03:35:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Seriphyn Inhonores
With a few of the above examples, the issue is that civil authorities still exist, no matter how weak. In the Caldari State, there are NO civil authorities. Everything is corporate-run. Of course, you could interpret 'Caldari civil' = megacorporate. In which instance, the State is where the state (small s) is omnipresent. This may be interpreted as authoritarianism or totalitarianism, but it's more than likely the average Caldari do not feel oppressed at all. Cultural relativism and all that; as players, we probably approach the lore as 'Gallente' (Westerners where democracy is the unquestionable world standard). This means that most of us in the West may very well find the State to be an extremely un-nice place to be, but the Caldari people and culture are adapted to such a lifestyle.

In which instance, for day-to-day governance, the Caldari State has many similarities with philosophies in the contemporary People's Republic of China, which is meritocratic. NYTimes just published an article on 'meritocracy vs democracy' here...some key points...

Quote:
Virtually all the candidates for the Standing Committee of the Party, China’s highest decision-making body, have served at least twice as a party secretary of a Chinese province or at similar managerial positions.


Quote:
However, in China’s Confucian tradition of meritocracy, a state should always strive for what’s called “shangshangce,” or “the best of the best” option by choosing leaders of the highest caliber. It’s not easy, but efforts in this direction should never cease.


There's also Chinese legalism worth thinking about, which is noted for having similarities with fascism, authoritarianism, and totalitarianism (which are three ideologies we see to varying degrees in the State)

Finally, Francis Fukuyama briefly chatting about (starts at :35) India and China. In short, when China wants to do something like displace folk to build something that'll benefit the whole, they do it (just like the Caldari would). When India wants to as a democracy, they'll have protests and strikes (just like what would happen in the Fed).

But ofc it's not all or nothing. As people have pointed out, the State has Japanese elements (though naturally, Japan has been heavily influenced by China over the centuries). I just like to use the PRC as a tool to help illuminate how the State may approach everyday governing.
Kanta Kansene
Agentes in rebus
#11 - 2012-11-19 05:59:51 UTC
The factions of New Eden kind of reminded me of the factions in the Doomtrooper CCG, which was set in the Mutant Chronicles universe. Caldari kind of share traits with 4 of the megacorporations in Mutant Chronicles; Bauhaus, Capitol, Imperial, and Mishima, although some of the ideals displayed by Capitol make them more like Gallente