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Loren Gallen. How does he do it?
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Stalking Mantis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2011-10-19 23:51:38 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
I'd name gallens caldari militia alt but I feel this public service that loren offers is too good. Also it ammusing to see everyone speculate as to who his alt/boosters are Lol Cull more faction BS good sir.


Agree all that do this are doing faction war a favor by removing carebears that are just evading tax. And yes it is exactly like hunting.

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Cpt Fina
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-10-20 07:19:45 UTC
I miss the days when killmails didn't reveal every single detail on ships.
The mysitque of war heroes is dead to the extent that instead of speculating over winning ship-setups we now instead dabble in how many characters they fight with What?
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#23 - 2011-10-20 14:29:11 UTC
if u have enough high caldari standing u dont need to care ....
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#24 - 2011-10-20 15:17:21 UTC
It isn't a giant mystery. He puts in the time, he gets the results. People are just too damn lazy to replicate his methodology because it will involve;
- researching the biggest carebears in Caldari militia;
- sit outside the prime mission station, figure out who is flying the stupidly expensive ships, what it is called
- ninja scan it with a ship scanner nd maybe even a stealth scanner to figure out its fit and figure out what you need to kill it
- combat probe him down after you see where he warps off to in system
- warp your alt to the mission gate, light the gang links

Then all you need to do is warp your expensive faction BS in to the site (and quoth the Wutang Clan, fsck the police) and shoot the dude.

I mean, seriously, with a blue pill and faction booster plus a T3 alt, you can tank anyone who is doing any level 4 mission. With a faction point, and a proper gang link from a Loki alt with mindlink you'll get well over 30km point. Hardly anything mystical here, just properly investing ISK in the venture (and reaping the rewards).

We are talking about hunting people who are only barely above bot software themselves; they get on a mission bender for 4, 5 hours while their mum is cooking them mac and cheese. Grind mission, rinse and repeat. They are in a system with 60, 80 or more in Local so they won't see a red star turn up in Local and won't be scanning the list like they would in a war because the Poliss will protect them. They will be chuffing their way through the spawns, probably on the warpin, and then, bam, red flashy Machariel or Bhaalgorm or whatever, and its all over.

Its not magic, people. It is just good hard work, balls the size of pumpkins, and not having a name Aaron Aardvaark so you don't show up on the Local list right at the top.

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Solomar Espersei
Quality Assurance
#25 - 2011-10-20 19:35:15 UTC
With all due respect to Loren and his impressive string of ganks, I think he'd be the first to admit that most mission ships fold like a tent within seconds of the neuts on the gankship completing their second cycle. Ninjas often take on 2 and 3 mission bears at a time and a single friendly repper will make a huge difference in those ganks.

I would suspect that he uses a neut T3 scanner/booster, his Main in the Mach of Doom and maybe a 3rd toon who reps as needed. That would account for his FW kills I think.

Major props to the guy though, we enjoy seeing the carnage he inflicts upon the mission bears.

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Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#26 - 2011-10-20 23:27:34 UTC
Loren Gallen is my alt !!
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-10-21 02:21:30 UTC
Loren Gallen greets you in local

+10 cool points

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Farsi Caldoran
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2011-10-21 02:35:04 UTC
Oh cool. Didn't know the guy who violenced my boat was space-famous. I was just disappointed that nobody in Caldari FW wanted to shoot him when he showed up. =/

- Chaotic Caldari Carebear
Stalking Mantis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-10-21 03:59:49 UTC
Farsi Caldoran wrote:
Oh cool. Didn't know the guy who violenced my boat was space-famous. I was just disappointed that nobody in Caldari FW wanted to shoot him when he showed up. =/

I went through your 'kill' stats.
you never contributed to your faction warfare by participating in fleets, you enjoyed 0 tax while you ran missions 'ALONE'. You were surprised when no one in FW came to your rescue and let you die 'ALONE'.

See my previous post about that.

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Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2011-10-21 04:42:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Mekhana
And that's exactly why I like the Gallente militia. I've flown with almost all the pilots, I can even identify most of them through their voice on comms. Great times.

Meanwhile that Squid there has been in the militia how long? He's never been in a fleet. Never done any real pew. That is the quintessential squid, the carebear.

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Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#31 - 2011-10-21 10:02:23 UTC
I can only assume Loren Galen is the Jalmon of the Gallente Federation? :P

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Farsi Caldoran
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2011-10-21 13:19:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Farsi Caldoran
Stalking Mantis wrote:
Farsi Caldoran wrote:
Oh cool. Didn't know the guy who violenced my boat was space-famous. I was just disappointed that nobody in Caldari FW wanted to shoot him when he showed up. =/

I went through your 'kill' stats.
you never contributed to your faction warfare by participating in fleets, you enjoyed 0 tax while you ran missions 'ALONE'. You were surprised when no one in FW came to your rescue and let you die 'ALONE'.

See my previous post about that.



Until recently out of my one year of play, I've mostly flown buzzards and we've been in FW for a handful of days during off hours, sorry about that. wrt missions, yes, we use them to get ISK for Ravens of doom, and since when has tax been significant? It was more of an oh cool a wart, let's go shoot it, kind of moment as I got in my blackbird.

Mekhana wrote:

And that's exactly why I like the Gallente militia. I've flown with almost all the pilots, I can even identify most of them through their voice on comms. Great times.

Meanwhile that Squid there has been in the militia how long? He's never been in a fleet. Never done any real pew. That is the quintessential squid, the carebear.

A handful of days.
Sorry you feel that way, but see points above. I'm sure that if you do your faction warfare thing long enough we'll see each other (when I have a bit more free time too). I think you are taking this game and KB stats a little too seriously.

- Chaotic Caldari Carebear
sten mattson
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#33 - 2011-10-21 17:44:40 UTC  |  Edited by: sten mattson
i must admit , loren gallen is a great PvPer

the only time i've fought him was when i was on my way to a nearby wormhole in my solo pilgrim , i encountered this flashy paladin , webbed down to oblivion off a gate and attacked by navy police.

without hesitation , i shed my cloak , pointed , webbed and TDd this palladin. and was surprised to see how much dmg he was still putting on me, despite the TDing. i then switched to both tracking scripts (instead of one) and by the time i finally got close enough to outtrack his guns i was in half armor as well , as i was moving at 40m/s with my AB overloaded thx to his bonused webs ^^ , after that , my rep could keep up with his dps , and we settled into a confortable stalemate

at that point , i knew i didnt have dps enough to kill him , so i spammed militia chat for backup, to tilt the stalemate in my favor.

you see the problem was not that i couldnt win , i would win eventually , because his cap boosters would run out (i didnt see any logi's on grid ) and once it did , he would melt faster than icescream in the sun; the real problem was that despite my neuting he was holding his tank quite well at half armor against the navy and my drones and he was moving back to gate faster than it would take him to use his last booster.

needless to say , the backup arrived just as loren jumped into the next system after he had reached gate jump range and deaggroed.


after 5 minutes i recieve a mail from him saying GF :D and i returned teh favor

i have to say that even tho this fight didnt get me a kill/loss mail , it was the most challenging one i've had in months. thank you loren for this opportunity , and i hope i'll find you someday and manage to catch you in a deadspace pocket ^^

sten mattson
former decurio of the 1rst Praetorian guard
attached to the amarr navy

EDIT : spelling and sense check

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Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#34 - 2011-10-21 18:28:12 UTC
Mekhana wrote:
And that's exactly why I like the Gallente militia. I've flown with almost all the pilots, I can even identify most of them through their voice on comms. Great times.

Meanwhile that Squid there has been in the militia how long? He's never been in a fleet. Never done any real pew. That is the quintessential squid, the carebear.


For better or worse, Gallente missions are probably are more challenging to do *relative* to the 3 other factions. As such, the pilots would rather just go pew than deal with NPC ECM jams and such.

Caldari tend to have easier missions with Gallente NPC and as such, it causes them to want to bear more than Gallente. I'm sure there are other contributing factors but having easier missions to grind doesn't always help the Caldari on the pvp front. It's a double-edges sword.

I give Loren alot of credit for just having patience. I once tried for 2 hours and gave up. So I know those epic kills does take alot of time and patience. Some people have the temperament and some don't.

Thanks for shedding some insight on my question again.

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Flenz
Rancorous Research
#35 - 2011-10-22 20:23:41 UTC
Loren has given me a few pointers on emulating his feats.
It is not trivial but it can be done.
My last Abaddon loss was due to my Gallente FW alt/spy disconnecting at an inopportune time combined with my inattention to detail regarding the security level of the system I was in.
Things can rapidly spiral out of control.

Without knocking Loren's technique at all, there are literally no end of players in Caldari FW to hunt.
They make it easy for him at times.

There are several Gallente FW players and corporations that farm the bountiful supply of tax evaders, mission farmers and hubris-tanked ignoramuses in Caldari FW.
It took a CNR loss for me to stop being one of those mouth-breathing idiots though I didn't lose it to Loren.
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