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Someone please do SOMETHING with moon mineral batches.... please?
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Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-11-19 02:48:34 UTC
In case you are wondering about what the title is describing I shall explain.

Mineral batches exist when a single moon can produce more than 100 units an hour of a single type of moon mineral.

In my case I found a moon that had 3 batches of a single moon mineral.

Now, considering logic you might think "cool, if there is more than one batch of moon minerals just setup more harvesters".

It's logical to think this, but guess what.... DOESN'T WORK! Lol

Okay, so there are moons with multiple batches of the same mineral what is one to do about it?

Well, for now one can do absolutely nothing because it's impossible to mine more than one batch of the same mineral on the same moon.

Why do these batches exist then? That is the question isn't it!

CCP originally planned to release MK 1 to MK 4 moon harvesters to allow these multiple batches to be mined.

Of course, as it is with CCP's style of leaving old features in the dust without reiterating on them the same has happened with this particular aspect of the game.

So here we are with a feature in the game that has no real reason to exist as things currently are.

For the sake of iteration I suggest CCP either get rid of multiple moon mineral batches or release the MK 1 to MK 4 moon harvesters.

You might want to release something like this when doing the POS revamp so as to increase the value of pre-existing moons while also adding more risk (no shield bubble).

However, that will be quite a while away and this little problem has been facing us for years.

It would be nice to have something ready by Dec 4, but I doubt that will happen due to this getting too little attention.

Thanks for reading this long about an abandoned feature.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#2 - 2012-11-19 02:49:57 UTC
Moons are certainly not profitable enough.

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Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-11-19 03:01:51 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Moons are certainly not profitable enough.


Well, so long as demand stays the same, an increase in supply can result in lower prices.

I haven't seen any examples of a technetium moon with multiple technetium batches on it. It tends to be the moons with lower rarity that have multiple batches of the same mineral.

One example being cobalt... Cool
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4 - 2012-11-19 03:07:06 UTC
I think the OP is calling for a re-factoring of all the moon materials

Like 100 A + 100 B = 200 C but value it in such as way that its similar to current time and material worth values.


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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#5 - 2012-11-19 03:18:13 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
I think the OP is calling for a re-factoring of all the moon materials

Like 100 A + 100 B = 200 C but value it in such as way that its similar to current time and material worth values.





No, the OP is asking to allow people to mine the minerals in greater quantities from moons if they are shown to be in larger quantities in said moons.

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Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-11-19 03:19:31 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
I think the OP is calling for a re-factoring of all the moon materials

Like 100 A + 100 B = 200 C but value it in such as way that its similar to current time and material worth values.




Not asking to have anything re-factored.

I'm just suggesting that a currently useless game feature either be removed or to release the capability to use said feature.

Yes, there are moons on which there are multiple batches or "veins" of the same mineral on the same moon.

Not sure if you have encountered this or not. Very few people know about this considering you would probably have to run a few POS to see it.
Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-11-19 03:22:13 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
I think the OP is calling for a re-factoring of all the moon materials

Like 100 A + 100 B = 200 C but value it in such as way that its similar to current time and material worth values.





No, the OP is asking to allow people to mine the minerals in greater quantities from moons if they are shown to be in larger quantities in said moons.


Exactly!

Now, if only a dev or two would read this thread and notifiy the correct "authorities"... one could only hope.

Maybe I should remind the CSM about this little abandoned feature. Ugh
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#8 - 2012-11-19 03:22:44 UTC
batches.... please

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Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-11-19 03:24:28 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
batches.... please


I think you are trying too hard Cool
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-11-19 03:56:26 UTC
They should release the fix.
It shall be called the batch patch.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-11-19 04:25:40 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
They should release the fix.
It shall be called the batch patch.


Catchy Pirate
Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-11-19 04:43:04 UTC
Unfortunately this sounds like an industry related issue.
As the current patch is focused on war, we are currently unable to take any steps to fix this issue at this time.
However we have taken note of the issue and it is now in our story backlog where it will stay forever and ever...

Yours faithfully

< random CCP dev >

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-11-19 04:50:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
No, the OP is asking to allow people to mine the minerals in greater quantities from moons if they are shown to be in larger quantities in said moons.

Or spread those unused deposites throughout nullsec more evenly. It may end up with more people able to settle there somewhat comfortably. Alternatlively, it will give more incentive to expand sov for existing alliances since as it was stated, you can mine more from 2 "normal" moons than from 1 overstuffed one. Just need to occupy them both.

And yeah, better T2 availability would be nice.

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Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-11-19 05:15:57 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
No, the OP is asking to allow people to mine the minerals in greater quantities from moons if they are shown to be in larger quantities in said moons.

Or spread those unused deposites throughout nullsec more evenly. It may end up with more people able to settle there somewhat comfortably. Alternatlively, it will give more incentive to expand sov for existing alliances since as it was stated, you can mine more from 2 "normal" moons than from 1 overstuffed one. Just need to occupy them both.

And yeah, better T2 availability would be nice.


Too bad there aren't any technetium moons that have batches Lol

The only moons that have these batches are typically lower end moon minerals. The example I encountered was Cobalt.

Its the fact that it normally doesn't occur on the more valuable moons that this feature wasn't noticed.

Releasing the harvesters CCP promised would increase the production of lower end moons a little bit. This in turn would make alchemy more effective.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#15 - 2012-11-19 10:00:16 UTC
I've seen this as well.

Every moon has 4 resource slots. Sometimes more than one slot will have the same resource. But for some reason we cannot mine more than one of a resource from any moon. Personally, it seems like a coding bug to me. But I could be wrong.

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-11-19 12:24:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Elzon1 wrote:
Too bad there aren't any technetium moons that have batches Lol

The only moons that have these batches are typically lower end moon minerals. The example I encountered was Cobalt.

Its the fact that it normally doesn't occur on the more valuable moons that this feature wasn't noticed.

Releasing the harvesters CCP promised would increase the production of lower end moons a little bit. This in turn would make alchemy more effective.

Well, at least said alchemy is a partial solution to mentioned bottleneck resource issue, while concept of some resources being localized is still intact (in case someone in CCP likes it).

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Planktal
Kenshao Industries
#17 - 2012-11-19 14:12:30 UTC
Good luck having this even mentioned by a Dev until 2015 and changes to it sometime in 2019

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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#18 - 2012-11-19 14:31:59 UTC
Planktal wrote:
Good luck having this even mentioned by a Dev until 2015 and changes to it sometime in 2019


Only if Goons allow it.

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Goon Gollum
#19 - 2012-11-19 19:32:33 UTC
BuckStrider wrote:
Planktal wrote:
Good luck having this even mentioned by a Dev until 2015 and changes to it sometime in 2019


Only if Goons allow it.


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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#20 - 2012-11-19 19:52:43 UTC
More ISK faucets! More passive income!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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