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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#361 - 2012-11-19 02:19:11 UTC
Tesal wrote:
The problem isn't ganking, its when it reaches an industrial scale that is the problem. If too many people are getting ganked, it will likely be nerfed. Thats been the pattern in past nerfs.


Define "industrial scale ganking".

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#362 - 2012-11-19 02:21:59 UTC
The 'problem' is people that expect to be able to fly about risk free.

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Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#363 - 2012-11-19 02:24:47 UTC
Failure to adapt to the changing EVE universe will only lead to extinction of FUN in YOUR game universe.

Fly Profitably

Smash
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#364 - 2012-11-19 02:27:20 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Tesal wrote:
The problem isn't ganking, its when it reaches an industrial scale that is the problem. If too many people are getting ganked, it will likely be nerfed. Thats been the pattern in past nerfs.

Define "industrial scale ganking".

It looks like about 80 freighter hulls are sold each day in Jita alone. That could probably be a good starting point for “industrial scale production” of freighters. One would expect that an industrial-scale ganking would at least rival those numbers…

…so if the OP's numbers are correct, we're not even 20% there. P
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#365 - 2012-11-19 02:39:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Spank
I've recently been playing on Gran Turismo 5 on the PS3 and it's got some really good ideas that could be transferred over to Eve Online.

The key one is the concept of licenses which are a series of instructional courses that you must first pass before you can progress to certain areas of the game. These are not only fun but also educate the player as to the finer points of driving high-peformance vehicles. The kind of techniques that you must master in order not to dive head-long into a crash barrier and resulting in your fiery death.

At present, people are allowed to fly near capital class vessels with little to no understanding of the dangers inherent in their use. This needs to stop since it's painfully obvious people are not taking the appropriate levels of responsibility required when flying such ships.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#366 - 2012-11-19 02:44:19 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
At present, people are allowed to fly near capital class vessels with little to no understanding of the dangers inherent in their use. This needs to stop since it's painfully obvious people are not taking the appropriate levels of responsibility required when flying such ships.

Supercapital class as well :shobon:

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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#367 - 2012-11-19 02:46:11 UTC
But no one cries outside of high-sec.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#368 - 2012-11-19 02:48:42 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
But no one cries outside of high-sec.

Oh they do, it's just that when you put it on the soundcloud and broadcast the link to the whole coalition, no one will do anything but laugh.

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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#369 - 2012-11-19 02:52:13 UTC
I've recently been looking for that chatlog of the Rorqual pilot that got tackled on gate with no realisation that you can't gate-travel in that ship. The one where he rages like a champ and, naturally, dies like a cretin.

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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#370 - 2012-11-19 04:50:01 UTC
I reserve the right to buy a Wyvern and take it out having no idea how to use it.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#371 - 2012-11-19 04:51:37 UTC
Ioci wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Lost one Charon full of trit yesterday.



A Charon full of Trit

You see that CCP?

Trit.

Now we aren't allowed to haul trit in High Sec because other players say so.

Your game is being griefed off the map. Ball is in your court.


Technically the ball is in our court.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#372 - 2012-11-19 04:54:55 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
But no one cries outside of high-sec.


That's because if my carrier dies it literally means I was doing something brilliantly stupid with it. I don't exactly like to broadcast my incompetence for the entire world to hear.

Unlike some of these freighter pilots who literally bleat all over the forums that they are the lowest form of morons yet don't have enough pride built up to actually be embarrassed about it.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#373 - 2012-11-19 05:06:46 UTC
turmajin wrote:
Thats the easy fix ,just turn it on its head ,if your targeting someone thats agresisve,if your breaking a target lock thats defensive,andConcord wouldnt be bothered,Doesnt stop the gank ,as your going to attack anyway,but it would make it MORE CHALLANGING ,to bring the freighter down before you got CONCORDNED ypurself.which would happen anyway.Nothings more boring than shooting fish in a barral imo.

Yeah, locking target to povide RR is so offensive, I deserve to be concorddocken'd in my Guardian trying to protect your ship at risk of being shot, kk.

Target breaking messes with it's target performance and can be used offensively. Locking someone doesn't do anything in itself and that's why it's not deemed aggressive action. If you are trying to break locks of someone who aggressed you, then it's ok anyways due to that being action against aggressor, nothing wrong here.

More on topic, ganking freighter escorted by tripple-web Daredevil should be pretty hard... Did I miss something?

P.S. It's quite sad that people started to gank cheaper freighters, I miss breathtaking killmails of olde (sorry, can't help).

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#374 - 2012-11-19 05:51:59 UTC
Tippia wrote:
look at the the rewards for killing an interceptor


For example 10x PLEX...

Tippia wrote:
Look at the damage output of the Thrasher in question


3k+

Tippia wrote:
Look at the time allotted for the task


2 seconds to lock and kaboom.

Tippia wrote:
Look at the tank of the interceptor


You mentioned "tank" and "interceptor" in same sentence. Big smile
Preceptor Stigmartyr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#375 - 2012-11-19 06:06:56 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Lance Rossiter wrote:
Just to be clear here, are we talking about lone freighters, or frieghters protected by reasonable escorts?

good luck with either.


PEW PEW PEW: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15247982

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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#376 - 2012-11-19 06:28:56 UTC
Preceptor Stigmartyr wrote:
Powers Sa wrote:
Lance Rossiter wrote:
Just to be clear here, are we talking about lone freighters, or frieghters protected by reasonable escorts?

good luck with either.


PEW PEW PEW: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15247982


I was at that fight.

2 Guardians, 4X Solace large x 2. I know there was at least one other Logi on scene with the Fen. I was just there to be a nuisance to Goons.

No armor repair registered on the Fen. Not, 'not enough' registered, none registered.

Your game is broke CCP.

Broke, Broke, Broke.
Ghazu
#377 - 2012-11-19 06:41:14 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Preceptor Stigmartyr wrote:
Powers Sa wrote:
Lance Rossiter wrote:
Just to be clear here, are we talking about lone freighters, or frieghters protected by reasonable escorts?

good luck with either.


PEW PEW PEW: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15247982


I was at that fight.

2 Guardians, 4X Solace large x 2. I know there was at least one other Logi on scene with the Fen. I was just there to be a nuisance to Goons.

No armor repair registered on the Fen. Not, 'not enough' registered, none registered.

Your game is broke CCP.

Broke, Broke, Broke.


You want some tissues?

Cry, Cry, Cry.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Ghazu
#378 - 2012-11-19 06:43:34 UTC
Also we are dissatisfied with Darius III's lackluster contribution during CSM terms, that's why.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#379 - 2012-11-19 06:48:36 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
Ghazu wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Preceptor Stigmartyr wrote:
Powers Sa wrote:
Lance Rossiter wrote:
Just to be clear here, are we talking about lone freighters, or frieghters protected by reasonable escorts?

good luck with either.


PEW PEW PEW: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15247982


I was at that fight.

2 Guardians, 4X Solace large x 2. I know there was at least one other Logi on scene with the Fen. I was just there to be a nuisance to Goons.

No armor repair registered on the Fen. Not, 'not enough' registered, none registered.

Your game is broke CCP.

Broke, Broke, Broke.


You want some tissues?

Cry, Cry, Cry.


No, I filed a bug report.
It isn't crying when you point out the game isn't functioning.
Preceptor Stigmartyr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#380 - 2012-11-19 07:59:33 UTC
@ Ocih: CCP is going to tell you to stop sucking at Eve and quit begging them to do all your heavy lifting.


Where would Tina Turner be right now if she'd rolled over and said: "Hit me again Ike, and put some STANK on it!"

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