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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#341 - 2012-11-18 23:19:31 UTC
Flew 250b of stuff in a pair of freighters last week and didn't lose anything because I am not lazy or dumb.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#342 - 2012-11-18 23:49:36 UTC
turmajin wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. Big smile


IM not saying its wrong,and that it should stop,but lets face it atm its like shoting fish in a barral.A bit like it was to gank miners,before the rebalancing of their ships.If you or a corp/alliance want to do this ,then fine ive no problems with it.But lets at least make it a little challanging,ad a little sporting by giving the freighter pilot a chance of escape .Otherwise its just a boring something to do.
Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. Big smile

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turmajin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#343 - 2012-11-18 23:50:51 UTC
Andski wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. Big smile


No, let freighters fit target breaker mods. Then when they get locked up by 10 gank ships and a neutral non-aggressive ship, the freighter will get concorded hilariously.


Well thats a very easy fix imo,after all breaking a target lock on you is hardly an act of agrression so CONCORD wouldnt be bothered at all and a neutral ship wouldnt have a reason to target lock you at all.just make the mod break locks on you very simply fix.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#344 - 2012-11-18 23:52:54 UTC
turmajin wrote:
Andski wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. Big smile


No, let freighters fit target breaker mods. Then when they get locked up by 10 gank ships and a neutral non-aggressive ship, the freighter will get concorded hilariously.


Well thats a very easy fix imo,after all breaking a target lock on you is hardly an act of agrression so CONCORD wouldnt be bothered at all and a neutral ship wouldnt have a reason to target lock you at all.just make the mod break locks on you very simply fix.
But a target lock is not deemed as an aggressive act, whereas breaking said lock is.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#345 - 2012-11-18 23:58:52 UTC
Newsflash wrote:
14 freighters/jf suicide ganked in empire last 24h by just handful of ships in every gank. 10 bc do it easily or 20 destroyers... this thing is just escalating by day. ccp time to do something about easiness and huge profit and neglible risk suicideganking these big ships offers.


If players want to gang up and gank a freighter, good for them.

This is Eve after all.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#346 - 2012-11-19 00:02:32 UTC
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:
But...to get the trit to the factory system where you're making the trit into T1 large guns, you'd move it in a ...freighter full of only trit.


You generally just buy the guns.

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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#347 - 2012-11-19 00:02:54 UTC
turmajin wrote:


IM not saying its wrong,and that it should stop,but lets face it atm its like shooting fish in a barral. A bit like it was to gank miners,before the rebalancing of their ships.If you or a corp/alliance want to do this ,then fine ive no problems with it. But lets at least make it a little challanging,ad a little sporting by giving the freighter pilot a chance of escape .Otherwise its just a boring something to do.


That's the elephant in the room.
It's just math to them. There is no challenge in it for Goons. After they did it the first five or six times it was no different than shooting a rat in a belt. They do the same thing each time, the only option open to the freighter pilot, bring moar people. Ganking freighter proves you could if you wanted, gank a Skiff. Nobody is doing it though. The math doesn't work in their favor.

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Lance Rossiter
CHAINS Corp
#348 - 2012-11-19 00:03:20 UTC
Just to be clear here, are we talking about lone freighters, or frieghters protected by reasonable escorts?
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#349 - 2012-11-19 00:03:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Spank
turmajin wrote:
IM not saying its wrong,and that it should stop,but lets face it atm its like shoting fish in a barral.A bit like it was to gank miners,before the rebalancing of their ships.If you or a corp/alliance want to do this ,then fine ive no problems with it.But lets at least make it a little challanging,ad a little sporting by giving the freighter pilot a chance of escape .Otherwise its just a boring something to do
.
This isn't asking to make the game more 'challanging', it's asking to make the game easier.

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Powers Sa
#350 - 2012-11-19 00:06:26 UTC
Lance Rossiter wrote:
Just to be clear here, are we talking about lone freighters, or frieghters protected by reasonable escorts?

good luck with either.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#351 - 2012-11-19 00:07:03 UTC
Ioci wrote:
It's just math to them. There is no challenge in it for Goons. After they did it the first five or six times it was no different than shooting a rat in a belt. They do the same thing each time, the only option open to the freighter pilot, bring moar people.
No, that's not their only option.
Nathalie LaPorte
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#352 - 2012-11-19 00:14:23 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:
But...to get the trit to the factory system where you're making the trit into T1 large guns, you'd move it in a ...freighter full of only trit.


You generally just buy the guns.


The same argument still holds, except now 'you' becomes a plural pronoun, referencing the gun buyer and the gun seller as an economic unit.
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#353 - 2012-11-19 00:15:57 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ioci wrote:
It's just math to them. There is no challenge in it for Goons. After they did it the first five or six times it was no different than shooting a rat in a belt. They do the same thing each time, the only option open to the freighter pilot, bring moar people.
No, that's not their only option.


You argued me on the forum.

You win EVE.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#354 - 2012-11-19 00:21:20 UTC
Ioci wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Ioci wrote:
It's just math to them. There is no challenge in it for Goons. After they did it the first five or six times it was no different than shooting a rat in a belt. They do the same thing each time, the only option open to the freighter pilot, bring moar people.
No, that's not their only option.


You argued me on the forum.

You win EVE.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#355 - 2012-11-19 00:28:14 UTC
Ioci wrote:
You argued me on the forum.

You win EVE.
Nah, that can't be right. How can I win EVE if I'm still playing?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#356 - 2012-11-19 00:31:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ioci wrote:
You argued me on the forum.

You win EVE.
Nah, that can't be right. How can I win EVE if I'm still playing?

It's on the FORUMS. That ain't the same thing~

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#357 - 2012-11-19 01:04:23 UTC
Dredboss wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
CCP has not only created a social experiment that allows sociopathic behavior, but actually encourages it.


You probably shouldn't play any games of risk/reward like poker. You'd feel bad about winning.

Mr Epeen wrote:
If the experiment fails, it's not the little bees fault. Nor Bat Country or any of the other griefers that CCP has invited to indulge in this antisocial behavior.


That word doesn't mean what you think it means, as there is a great deal of socializing involved in coordinating these efforts. Maybe you should have not slept through class.

Mr Epeen wrote:
No; if you must lay blame, lay it on the company that made this game. Not the people that are abusing the mechanics that were designed into it.

TLDR: For better or worse, it's working as intended.


You should stop playing Eve, since you clearly don't understand it. Save your $ for therapy instead, or the collection plate at church where you can rail at God for allowing humans to use physics to do things you don't approve of.

Or... OR.. you can reach down real deep like, and you can find your ********* and strife.


It makes me feel good to be able to pull you out of your shell and join the community by finally making your first post here.

Welcome to the forum.

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turmajin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#358 - 2012-11-19 01:53:43 UTC
Mag's wrote:
turmajin wrote:
Andski wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. Big smile


No, let freighters fit target breaker mods. Then when they get locked up by 10 gank ships and a neutral non-aggressive ship, the freighter will get concorded hilariously.


Well thats a very easy fix imo,after all breaking a target lock on you is hardly an act of agrression so CONCORD wouldnt be bothered at all and a neutral ship wouldnt have a reason to target lock you at all.just make the mod break locks on you very simply fix.
But a target lock is not deemed as an aggressive act, whereas breaking said lock is.


Thats the easy fix ,just turn it on its head ,if your targeting someone thats agresisve,if your breaking a target lock thats defensive,andConcord wouldnt be bothered,Doesnt stop the gank ,as your going to attack anyway,but it would make it MORE CHALLANGING ,to bring the freighter down before you got CONCORDNED ypurself.which would happen anyway.Nothings more boring than shooting fish in a barral imo.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#359 - 2012-11-19 01:57:34 UTC
Can't stop fish from swimming in the sea.

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Tesal
#360 - 2012-11-19 02:18:14 UTC
The problem isn't ganking, its when it reaches an industrial scale that is the problem. If too many people are getting ganked, it will likely be nerfed. Thats been the pattern in past nerfs.