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Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#321 - 2012-11-18 21:55:18 UTC
Since people seem to think this is such an important issue to talk about (16 pages in one day)

Here is the solution to not getting your freighter ganked in hi-sec: Red Frog Freight or Push Industries.

If it's so bloody dangerous to fly your freighter around, why don't you pay these guys to do it for you? I have a freighter myself and barely use it simply because these couriers are so cheap to use it's not worth me jumping my freighter around for 500k/jump most of the time. Even if it was worth me jumping for 500k, the opportunity cost since moving a freighter does take a lot of time even with webs, just isn't worth it.

If you are rich enough to afford to put 4 billion worth of cargo in your freighter, you are rich enough to pay a courier to do something that your not good at.

You can put up to 1 bil worth of **** for 500k/jump. The service to move it will cost you about 1% of the items you are moving. Most people move stuff around to make money, if you aren't making more than 1% on the items you are moving, your doing it wrong in the first place. Let's say you are making 10%. After the courier cost you now make 9% oh noes.

Disclaimer: I am not a courier, nor am I affiliated with them in any way.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#322 - 2012-11-18 21:55:32 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Now let's see you twist that one into incomprehensibility. I'm sure you'll try.
Your wish and all that.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#323 - 2012-11-18 21:56:53 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Your reading abilities leave something to be desired. Tippia said before you undock, not don't undock.


I didn't know you can decided not to undock after you have undocked...

For the sake of mankind, I'm going to just assume you're trolling. Nobody can be this bad at reading.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#324 - 2012-11-18 21:57:22 UTC  |  Edited by: psycho freak
Personaly i suport empire ganking its good player content

id like to see some the tiers you guys get in mails any links to any you posted or could you post a few on C+P


on side note this is why we dont want carebares in losec becouse all they do is fu#king cry to ccp to get game changed to suit them

my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k

nop cant find it

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#325 - 2012-11-18 22:00:47 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Do you want to take a stab at guessing why?


Not my problem if you don't fit for warp speed...

Lord Zim wrote:
Nobody can be this bad at reading.


To undock or not to undock is what you have to decide before you undock.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#326 - 2012-11-18 22:01:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Lord Zim wrote:
For the sake of mankind, I'm going to just assume you're trolling. Nobody can be this bad at reading.
He isn't. He's just an unrepentant liar with little to no grasp of details such as reality or facts.

Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Not my problem if you don't fit for warp speed...
…and once again, you don't answer the question.
So again, want to take a stab at guessing why you've never seen an arty Thrasher try to destroy an Interceptor? (The matter of those 3 seconds will be left for later.)

Quote:
To undock or not to undock is what you have to decide before you undock.
…and you have to decide something else as well: whether or not to make yourself a worth-while target.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#327 - 2012-11-18 22:02:00 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Your reading abilities leave something to be desired. Tippia said before you undock, not don't undock.


I didn't know you can decided not to undock after you have undocked...

For the sake of mankind, I'm going to just assume you're trolling. Nobody can be this bad at reading.

Mankind is already lost. It's too late, when you have observed such symptoms, nothing can cure the ailment.

It's a terminal condition. EVE is also suffering from it - Mortal Stupidity.


P.S. EVE is dying.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#328 - 2012-11-18 22:02:04 UTC
Yep, trolling it is.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Mag's
Azn Empire
#329 - 2012-11-18 22:03:14 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
To undock or not to undock is what you have to decide before you undock.
Much like when leaving the house in the morning, it's whether to open the door or not. Nothing else comes into it.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#330 - 2012-11-18 22:11:29 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…and once again, you don't answer the question.
So again, want to take a stab at guessing why you've never seen an arty Thrasher try to destroy an Interceptor? (The matter of those 3 seconds will be left for later.)


They are AFK? Hisec, you know.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#331 - 2012-11-18 22:17:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
They are AFK? Hisec, you know.
That would be one explanation, but it would be completely meaningless since you're trying to explain why something doesn't happen by saying that it's because nothing is happening. You're begging the question.

Here are a couple of hints: look at the the rewards for killing an interceptor. Look at the damage output of the Thrasher in question. Look at the time allotted for the task. Look at the tank of the interceptor. Now go back to the Thrasher and adjust it so it can do what you want it to do, and finally, go back and have a second look at the reward for shooting the interceptor.
Shylari Avada
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#332 - 2012-11-18 22:32:14 UTC
Heh- 17 Pages filled with people ignoring common sense and basic aggression mechanics.
turmajin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#333 - 2012-11-18 22:44:25 UTC
Im not a fan of rewarding stupidity,but the ganking of FREIGHTERS is getting a little out of hand imo.Annother reason alliances do it is to push the price of certain goods up ,so they can make a killing on the mrkt.Freighters are there to hual big loads of goods from A to B they shouldnt be warships of any kind. and armour ect imo is fine.I do however think they should be able to fit THE TARGET BREAKER MOD,and only that mod ,so they at least have a chance of escape.from a massed attackThey are after all expensive capital ship in SKILLS aswell as ISK It might then hopefully help to mitigate the artificial inflation being generated by ganking frieghters.on certain goods ,just so an alliance or colition can make ISK
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#334 - 2012-11-18 22:50:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
turmajin wrote:
Im not a fan of rewarding stupidity,but the ganking of FREIGHTERS is getting a little out of hand imo.
It really isn't. It's still an exceedingly rare event — it's just that people are making a lot of noise about it when it happens (quite likely exactly because it's such a rare event that it comes as a shock to them when it actually does happen).

If it were really out of hand, people wouldn't even bat an eye lid at it when it happened. Lol

Quote:
Annother reason alliances do it is to push the price of certain goods up ,so they can make a killing on the mrkt.
Good. The game needs more of that kind of global interaction patterns.

Quote:
They are after all expensive capital ship in SKILLS aswell as ISK
Not really, no. Not that either is a good factor for balance anyway.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#335 - 2012-11-18 22:51:28 UTC
turmajin wrote:
Im not a fan of rewarding stupidity,but the ganking of FREIGHTERS is getting a little out of hand imo.Annother reason alliances do it is to push the price of certain goods up ,so they can make a killing on the mrkt.Freighters are there to hual big loads of goods from A to B they shouldnt be warships of any kind. and armour ect imo is fine.I do however think they should be able to fit THE TARGET BREAKER MOD,and only that mod ,so they at least have a chance of escape.from a massed attackThey are after all expensive capital ship in SKILLS aswell as ISK It might then hopefully help to mitigate the artificial inflation being generated by ganking frieghters.on certain goods ,just so an alliance or colition can make ISK
Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. Big smile

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

turmajin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#336 - 2012-11-18 23:03:11 UTC
Mag's wrote:
turmajin wrote:
Im not a fan of rewarding stupidity,but the ganking of FREIGHTERS is getting a little out of hand imo.Annother reason alliances do it is to push the price of certain goods up ,so they can make a killing on the mrkt.Freighters are there to hual big loads of goods from A to B they shouldnt be warships of any kind. and armour ect imo is fine.I do however think they should be able to fit THE TARGET BREAKER MOD,and only that mod ,so they at least have a chance of escape.from a massed attackThey are after all expensive capital ship in SKILLS aswell as ISK It might then hopefully help to mitigate the artificial inflation being generated by ganking frieghters.on certain goods ,just so an alliance or colition can make ISK
Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. Big smile


IM not saying its wrong,and that it should stop,but lets face it atm its like shoting fish in a barral.A bit like it was to gank miners,before the rebalancing of their ships.If you or a corp/alliance want to do this ,then fine ive no problems with it.But lets at least make it a little challanging,ad a little sporting by giving the freighter pilot a chance of escape .Otherwise its just a boring something to do.
Powers Sa
#337 - 2012-11-18 23:04:58 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
idk, stop sucking or something.


It's kinda difficult when you guys go even after 981k m3 of trit...

I know there isn't enough trit in null to build titans but geez...

Chances are you are red to the CFC, and that's why we killed you.




Tau Cabalander wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Lost one Charon full of trit yesterday.

I haul 6 Charons of Trit a week (I actually own 6 Charons). I've not lost one yet.

My most recent haulage was 12 billion ISK of BPO. I used a scout. [I was too lazy to make multiple trips.]

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Go back to WoW lost the touch? We need to abuse Hello Kitty now?

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No one cries their balls off when a super gets bumped out of a pos and then executed. Why is this any different? Oh it isn't because bumping is legal.

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Dredboss
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#338 - 2012-11-18 23:05:52 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
CCP has not only created a social experiment that allows sociopathic behavior, but actually encourages it.


You probably shouldn't play any games of risk/reward like poker. You'd feel bad about winning.

Mr Epeen wrote:
If the experiment fails, it's not the little bees fault. Nor Bat Country or any of the other griefers that CCP has invited to indulge in this antisocial behavior.


That word doesn't mean what you think it means, as there is a great deal of socializing involved in coordinating these efforts. Maybe you should have not slept through class.

Mr Epeen wrote:
No; if you must lay blame, lay it on the company that made this game. Not the people that are abusing the mechanics that were designed into it.

TLDR: For better or worse, it's working as intended.


You should stop playing Eve, since you clearly don't understand it. Save your $ for therapy instead, or the collection plate at church where you can rail at God for allowing humans to use physics to do things you don't approve of.

Or... OR.. you can reach down real deep like, and you can find your testicles and strife.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#339 - 2012-11-18 23:15:01 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. Big smile


No, let freighters fit target breaker mods. Then when they get locked up by 10 gank ships and a neutral non-aggressive ship, the freighter will get concorded hilariously.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#340 - 2012-11-18 23:17:04 UTC
Andski wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Good news, you can fly with friends who can fit a target breaker mod. Big smile

No, let freighters fit target breaker mods. Then when they get locked up by 10 gank ships and a neutral non-aggressive ship, the freighter will get concorded hilariously.

You just had to say it, didn't you? Evil