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On the subject of inviting friends to eve: and suddenly CCP / Ninjas^^

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horpaskron
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-11-18 15:42:03 UTC
Hey Fellow Capsuleers. As the title says, this one is about the friendship invitation for eve.

I invited a new player to the game, did everything right btw, and started showing the world of eve to him. He was a lil overwhelmed in the beginning but quickly decided that the game was fun.

So he did what we all hope our invited friends would do, he upgraded his trial to full account.

here i was thinking "BAM!" and that a nice lil present for me.

You may ask yourself why am i writing here about that? well sure as hell CCP found a way to cheat me out of my present.

We both knew that he wasnt allowed to use plex to upgrade to full acc, so we didnt instead we used an option available to german customers, such as us, to pay by bank account. It´s called ELV, and CCP gets the cash within 3 days. There is no sign nor any warning that this payment method is inferior or , like plex, not eligible for the present to be handed out. (sorry if this sounds weird, id odnt know any way to put it better) so this ELV is treated as if the player used plex to creat a full acoount, even though he pays cash for it. AND even though it is not said beforehand, only after my friend upgraded, did i receive a note that he used an illegal way to do so. The account on the other hand is up and running!...


Guys what dou you think? I FEEL CHEATED! A new player is a member, an acount has been payed, i should get something for it.
in any case:

DO NOT INVITE NEW PLAYERS TO EVE! that is what i learned from this mess.

Oh and BTW: My petition about this matter is now several days unanswered!
Good job freaking out a player that was willing to give eve another shot, and brought someone else along.

I would like a statement of the Council on this matter, since it seems that CCP itself is "to busy" to answer me

thank you for your patience

Horpi
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#2 - 2012-11-18 21:53:29 UTC
Bearing in mind that I know little to nothing about this payment method,

It does sound unfair.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

horpaskron
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-11-19 16:30:57 UTC
thank you for your opinion, especially since it supports me^^

But what about any officials? yet another day with no answer on the petition.

is there any other place in the forums where i should put this to get more attention? especially from officials
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#4 - 2012-11-19 17:46:02 UTC

Petition and Escalate it...

It does sound unfair....
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#5 - 2012-11-19 18:14:50 UTC
Yeah, this sounds extremely unfair... If paying from a bank account is to be considered the same as upgrading with plex then CCP really needs to make this more clear as it clearly defies logic... This seems like classic small print interpretation business douchebaggery. C'mon CCP, you guys are at the very least "above" these types of "scams".
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#6 - 2012-11-20 20:31:51 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Yeah, this sounds extremely unfair... If paying from a bank account is to be considered the same as upgrading with plex then CCP really needs to make this more clear as it clearly defies logic... This seems like classic small print interpretation business douchebaggery. C'mon CCP, you guys are at the very least "above" these types of "scams".

In what way is paying real money for a sub the same as buying a PLEX with isk without sending real money?

This was the issue. The change to the system was to stop players like myself from starting alt accounts with the buddy system. contracting the new account a PLEX to activate the account. And the inviting account being credited a PLEX for the invited account being subed.

This work around allowed players to basically have a 50 day or so trial account for free without the restrictions to skills and ships normally applied to a trial account. you could then before that free account expired transfer the toon to another active account or sell it on the bazaar.

I still do not see why this change was needed. I did this once but by the end of the two months didn't want to give up that third account and kept it subbed. One more paying sub that I would not have started without this option. I later started a fourth account using the special 6 month starter sub which worked out to half price, also with the intention of moving the character over to another account after getting in the 6 months training. But again I kept the account active and almost 2 years later now have 4 active accounts ranging from 45mil sp to just over 20 mil on my newest account.

I still have character slots on a few accounts with no skills. If these options were still available I would possibly be up to 5-6 accounts by now. I just hate stopping training on a main character just to train up a PI, research, cyno, or hauler alt. Doing this on a new account and then paying the $10 to transfer it over is always an appealing option. but now CCP has removed that option.

But back to the point at hand. Paying for a sub is paying for a sub. The method of payment as long as it is not a PLEX should matter. I pay all my subs through paypal. I would be very upset if paying to upgrade a trial account through paypal disqualified the inviting account from receiving the PLEX.

I was under the impression not matter what the inviting account was still rewarded. There was just no longer a PLEX for PLEX exchange. If a PLEX was used to activate the account you would receive a 30 day game time credit. If the account was activated thru a paid sub you would receive a PLEX as reward. If you received nothing then you got screwed. I would raise hell.

There is nothing even in the notes that accounts sharing the same I.P. would not qualify for rewards. So even using the buddy system to start an alt account should still grant the reward. Have you double checked your account renewal date to see if you go the game time reward instead of a PLEX?
horpaskron
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-11-20 20:45:22 UTC
i got nothing. i checked again after i read this post. Still nothing.
z Flint
z Mining Corp
#8 - 2012-11-21 01:41:54 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Petition and Escalate it...

It does sound unfair....


Second*
CraftyCroc
Fraternity Alliance Please Ignore
#9 - 2012-11-23 10:03:50 UTC
Sounds unfair

Signed
horpaskron
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-12-04 18:37:31 UTC
Finally a senior GM handled the situation!

I got the Plex now, thx everyone for posting.