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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#1 - 2012-11-18 02:44:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
What a game this is, sometimes I love it and other times hate it, in general some could say it does give us a look inside people's heads, the anonymous nature of this game and the net gives insight to behaviors humans otherwise suppress.
Every day there's news about this and that, things people do in RL and not hidden behind a keyboard, usually with bad outcomes for everyone involved but to see a community like EVE and see similar behavior from players make me question the human physique one in game one RL but the thought is the same.
I read about Lisa Nowak former astronaut and her behavior, absolutely madness.
If you know what it takes to be an astronaut and make it in the astronaut corps you can consider yourself high up there then say a common floor sweeper however if one of the elite of the human race is that nuts and many EVE players do as they do it does disturb me to know this about people.
I won't say who but lets say this I made a deal with another player I honored all parts of the agreement but when it was time for their part of the bargain they behaved with dishonor and never paid me the balance of fifty million isk, but to me it's laughable it's only game money with no value outside of the game huh I thought, it's easy enough to make fifty million isk and they acted in such a manner, it does make me wonder if humans will make it before we destroy ourselves all and all some people say you can't compare an internet game to RL but I believe it gives insight into the true nature of people.

Just some rambling thoughts today.
Hayz Hayward
Flying Twice Technologies
Hard Knocks Executors
#2 - 2012-11-18 08:10:57 UTC
Piugattuk wrote:
What a game this is, sometimes I love it and other times hate it, in general some could say it does give us a look inside people's heads, the anonymous nature of this game and the net gives insight to behaviors humans otherwise suppress.
Every day there's news about this and that, things people do in RL and not hidden behind a keyboard, usually with bad outcomes for everyone involved but to see a community like EVE and see similar behavior from players make me question the human physique one in game one RL but the thought is the same.
I read about Lisa Nowak former astronaut and her behavior, absolutely madness.
If you know what it takes to be an astronaut and make it in the astronaut corps you can consider yourself high up there then say a common floor sweeper however if one of the elite of the human race is that nuts and many EVE players do as they do it does disturb me to know this about people.
I won't say who but lets say this I made a deal with another player I honored all parts of the agreement but when it was time for their part of the bargain they behaved with dishonor and never paid me the balance of fifty million isk, but to me it's laughable it's only game money with no value outside of the game huh I thought, it's easy enough to make fifty million isk and they acted in such a manner, it does make me wonder if humans will make it before we destroy ourselves all and all some people say you can't compare an internet game to RL but I believe it gives insight into the true nature of people.

Just some rambling thoughts today.



Good points and views.
Although, and I'm not trying to be pedantic or patroniising, scamming is a form of industry in eve, I gather from your post that it seems you were not aware of it?
I'm a yaaar-man, but it doesn't mean that I hold old ladies up with a plastic phantasm when I go into town ^^




Hayz

WARNING: this post is filled with cerebral dissentry
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#3 - 2012-11-18 10:54:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
About scamming aspects in game.

Its ok, is a game hovewer i dont scam people because i feel bad with this, but form other perspective why not, its depend how people want to play, personaly im more in game like in RL, i cant acting forever even i like RPG style, im just to long here, form 2007, anyway since years i do multiple things in EvE, like pirating and ransoming people even form nature im carebear... Its a game.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#4 - 2012-11-18 13:41:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
Oh no don't get me wrong, I understood the risk of trusting this guy, I knew from the get go, this would not be the first time I have been taken advantage of, not because I trust, but because I wonder when I will run into a person who is honorable and sadly a vast majority of people here not honorable.
but my point, it's just funny how EVE (humans in transparency) behave in a similar way as those we point to in RL and say their nuts, it's my contention that at the core most humans really are nuts, this is what I take from EVE not as a negative but as an insight to understand what I'm dealing with.
Or put it this way, why it seems to me in RL why people seem to awe at destruction (demolition of a structure) rather then be awed at the building of a structure. You feel me.
Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-11-18 14:10:31 UTC
I like the way Eve shows that most people are unable to disassociate themselves from themselves and, when given the perfect opportunity such as Eve, behave in a manner they would sometime wish to - or even a manner they would NEVER consider otherwise.

These people, usually after a mishap or 2 caused normally by the naivety that everyone is the same, regularly damn the entirety of the Human race due to a disappointment in a role playing GAME.

BTW you know what happened to the 'honourable' Samurai right ?

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#6 - 2012-11-18 15:36:03 UTC
Something Random wrote:
I like the way Eve shows that most people are unable to disassociate themselves from themselves and, when given the perfect opportunity such as Eve, behave in a manner they would sometime wish to - or even a manner they would NEVER consider otherwise.

These people, usually after a mishap or 2 caused normally by the naivety that everyone is the same, regularly damn the entirety of the Human race due to a disappointment in a role playing GAME.

BTW you know what happened to the 'honourable' Samurai right ?


Exactly my point, you contend that disassociating one's core so that one can behave in manners we wouldn't otherwise do in RL is some sort of weakness and I say I believe that keeping to one's core values is a source of strength and a practice of stability both in game and out, the fact that I don't "do as I wish to do" doesn't mean I cannot be as ugly as anyone else, it's a matter of choosing to walk a narrow path for a greater good, to not trample.

Mishap, no, you seem to not understand I understood what was the likely outcome however I am hoping that I was wrong, if I find 1 decent player out of a hundred then my search was well worth it this person is one of the few, a contact that is more likely to be helpful and is worth seeking out to form an association with.

Samurai honorable, sure ok, and their legend lives on because of honor they stood by enough so that after all this time you found it worth reading/watching or paying attention enough to to remember them as honorable.