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Armor Tanked L4 Fits?

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Xornicon Altair
Black Watch Syndicate
#1 - 2012-11-08 23:51:24 UTC
It's been almost 2 years since the last time I ran a Level 4 mission. Due to recent boredoms, I've decided to come back to my Caldari Navy Level 4s. I'd like to take an armor tanked ship into these missions, but, all of my recent knowledge is PvP based. As such, I'm hoping some of you can share Armor Tanked Level 4 Fits.

Any ship is fine, so long as it's an armor tank. There are no restrictions on ship types as I have sufficient skills to fly all non-capital combat ships in the game.

This is the song....

Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-11-09 00:48:32 UTC
http://eve.battleclinic.com/browse_loadouts.php

Is Battleclinic all out of fits?

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2012-11-09 02:34:28 UTC
Confirming PVE is hard.. no FC to tell you what ship to use how to fit it and when the blob should warp to, jump and shoot...
Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#4 - 2012-11-09 06:09:38 UTC
Best armor for level 4s is probably the Domi. Got a fit but not the time to look it up right now.

BattleClinic should point you roughly in the right directions though
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-11-09 07:15:57 UTC
Amarr BSs are typically armor tanked if I'm not mistaken.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#6 - 2012-11-09 07:25:52 UTC
Hakaimono wrote:
Amarr BSs are typically armor tanked if I'm not mistaken.


Also, not so good in Caldari space due to damage types. Dominix might be the best option.

But OP, why armor only?
Xornicon Altair
Black Watch Syndicate
#7 - 2012-11-09 08:42:18 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
But OP, why armor only?


Because I know very well how to do it with shields and it's boring as snot. I'd prefer to change it up and see what else I can do.

This is the song....

Kasutra
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#8 - 2012-11-09 10:17:27 UTC
Domis do a good armor tank. Somewhat less paper DPS than the shield fits, but more tracking and the possibility of an AB.

The Vindicator works well too. And the Kronos probably doesn't suck.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-11-09 13:41:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
if you want to change it up, try running lvl4s in an assault frigate.

edit: the kronos isn't BAD bad but compared to the vindicator it's still bad.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#10 - 2012-11-09 14:51:46 UTC
Any armor fit with an active rep will work. Buffer tanking just does not work well for missions. Once your tank is burned through, which happens fast when facing 6-8 battleships, you need to warp off if you don't have a rep.

The main reason armor fits are not popular in missions is the armor tank uses the low slots leaving less space for damage mods. in missions the higher your DPS the faster your completion times. At the same time though you need to actually be able to apply that DPS. So using an active armor tank and loading the mids with target painters and tracking boosters can work well.

Basic rule of thumb is much like a shield tank fit. I never use plates, just rat specific resists and a local rep. Just like a shield fit faction and deadspace mods can give you more tank in less slots allowing for more DPS mods.

I really enjoy flying missions in a typhoon. a lot of micro management with three weapon systems to keep track of. I usually fit 4 guns, 4 launchers, and a flight of T2 sentry drones. Can do over 1000 DPS without gimping the tank to much. Best use of rigs in to either pug resist holes, or increasing the rep amounts. Either way can free up some low slots for damage mods.

My most recent fit for a typhoon mission runner is actually a shield fit but lots of fun. Hard to fit a good enough shield tank on it, but using the rigs for resists, a DED X-large booster or X-large ASB and a couple rat specific resists seem to do the trick. This leaves all the low slots for damage mods. Since you have 3 weapon systems the stacking penalties is not to bad. I get almost 1300 DPS with my fit. And it is not boring to fly as the shield tank is barely adequate and needs to be well controlled. Combined with the mirco management of three weapon systems it is a lot of fun to fly and has very fast completion times if flown well.
Seraph Castillon
In Control
#11 - 2012-11-09 15:37:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Castillon
I'm not happy with it yet, but it can get you started. It has less DPS than a shield fit, but the 2 omni's give you a better damage projection, which should make up for that. It can fit a propulsion mod at the cost of cap.

[Dominix, Mission Fit Armor]
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link

350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Garde II x5
hmskrecik
TransMine Group
Gluten Free Cartel
#12 - 2012-11-09 16:38:16 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
edit: the kronos isn't BAD bad but compared to the vindicator it's still bad.

Worse, but not bad.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-11-09 16:45:01 UTC
hmskrecik wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
edit: the kronos isn't BAD bad but compared to the vindicator it's still bad.

Worse, but not bad.

well, it has about the same dps as a maelstrom, with better projection but worse tracking. it isn't bad in general but it is certainly bad with regard to its price tag.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#14 - 2012-11-09 16:47:27 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
hmskrecik wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
edit: the kronos isn't BAD bad but compared to the vindicator it's still bad.

Worse, but not bad.

well, it has about the same dps as a maelstrom, with better projection but worse tracking. it isn't bad in general but it is certainly bad with regard to its price tag.


It's also going to suck donkey balls against Guristas -- just like all Marauders.

The more I think about the OP's actual question, the more I'm thinking NDomi is the way to go.
hmskrecik
TransMine Group
Gluten Free Cartel
#15 - 2012-11-09 16:50:33 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
hmskrecik wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
edit: the kronos isn't BAD bad but compared to the vindicator it's still bad.

Worse, but not bad.

well, it has about the same dps as a maelstrom, with better projection but worse tracking. it isn't bad in general but it is certainly bad with regard to its price tag.

Can't comment on Mael but you've started comparing Kronos to Vindicator. In this regard, Kronos is much easier to fit and fly and doesn't require ubershiny modules for that (someone's talking about price tag?). Yes, performs worse but is much more versatile. And that said, the performance difference isn't such dramatic.
Harbingour
EVE Corporation 690846961
#16 - 2012-11-15 20:35:50 UTC
Hakaimono wrote:
Amarr BSs are typically armor tanked if I'm not mistaken.


Yep... I guess I have seen some good Incursion shield Bhaals though I havn't seen a shield bhaal fit for level 4's?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Backfyre
Hohmann Transfer
#17 - 2012-11-16 20:44:50 UTC
I find the domi somewhat boring. 425mm rail Kronos and rail proteus do just fine. When I want to mess around a bit more, I'll pull out a blaster deimos. The cruisers rely on speed tank where I can permarun the AB and MAR. Kronos is really easy to fit. Basic fitting "rules" suffice in all cases.
Kosetzu
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#18 - 2012-11-17 21:17:58 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:

My most recent fit for a typhoon mission runner is actually a shield fit but lots of fun. Hard to fit a good enough shield tank on it, but using the rigs for resists, a DED X-large booster or X-large ASB and a couple rat specific resists seem to do the trick.

I can't even begin to say how terrible this advice is... Don't use ASBs for missions! When you've tanked all you can with it you either have to reload (1 minute without reps) or use up almost all your cap on a few boosts.

It can probably be used, but you shouldn't use it unless you know that you can remove the dps fast enough to not die in the reload.
Yoshite McLulzypants
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-11-18 14:16:23 UTC
Navy domi is teh sex but it's unsightly to be seen without 6 dda/magstabs ie: shield tanked.

I mean really if you are insisting on armor fit just because.. and dont care about cost etc then vindicator, 4 magstabs and 3 slot tank should be fine. Or 4 slot tank if you want to be a pussy about it. PVE is ~hard~~~
Feng Chow
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-11-18 14:43:44 UTC
At work currently so can't access my fits, but I'm doing caldari lvl 4 missions in an armor fit Legion that can take a hell of a pounding, and do 600 dps.

I've tagged this, and will add my fit later if you want
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