EVE General Discussion

yes, however to gank most of those other ships you need something other than a 14 day old character in a catalyst.

i doubt you'd be able to take down an untanked damnation with the same setup. could you?

Remove cargo scanners from the game. Instant risk vs. reward balance for suicide ganking

Freighters don't need an EHP buff.

I can take down heavy assualt ships.

Or you can split the load and do multiple runs, or you can use a blocade runner for the very expensive items, or you can use a heavily tanked deep space transport, or you can escort the ship with logistics.

There are more but I should think you are getting the idea.

Increasing the value of the cargo increases the risk of the loss. The only limit to how much you can carry is the size of your cargo bay. If you want to carry 1.5B, and can carry 1.5B, and the payoff is worth the risk, then why shouldn't they haul it? If they CHOOSE to haul it, however, knowing the inherent risk, and they lose it, then they can't complain.

It's not stupid to carry valuable cargoes - it fits in with the risk vs reward mechanic quite nicely, actually. It's only stupid to assume that you'll be safe doing so, and not take every precaution possible to minimise that risk as much as possible.

Jita is a different bag of bolts.
They don't gank there for a reason. More Sentry that hit a lot harder and instant response from concord. EVE has always been in gross favor of offense over defense. I was looking at one of the kills and 6 guys took down a Providence. They even scrambled it so as to disrupt the warp. The thing with a freighter is, you can take 90 seconds to get to warp out but if you lose your warp status you drop to near 0 speed almost right away. It's also what makes bumping so good. Bump and it isn't that it breaks the alignment, it's that it kills your speed climb back to stand still.

Goons are exploiting very old mechanics. Plain and simple.

It depends on your route, too - Dodixie to Jita is a higher risk route than Dodixie to Renyn, or Oursulaert, for example.

But I run escort on the Dodixie to Jita route with a corp mate who frequently hauls upwards of 3bil and we go straight through Uedama without a problem. There are two of us that fly escort with him - one in a Tengu, and the other in a fast tackle interceptor which will vary. I won't divulge all of our tactics so as not to give people too much intel on us, but they do involve the use of a wide range of bookmarks and a variation on the specific route each time. We get that route done maybe twice a week without a problem.

TZ should be considered, too. Running freight during a time when MORE people populate the servers presents a target rich environment for any potential piracy - the more targets they have, the less likely they'll hit you personally.

Again, plese show us what rules we are supposedly breaking.

That's my point, no one in this thread really has a right to complain about it because they've made stupid, careless decisions and are facing the consequences.

Which is probably stems from their everyday life where they are very rarely acknowledged and usually overlooked and ignored. Which in turn is likely justified because they have no redeeming qualities in their personality , have no ability to take any kind of responsibility for their failures and refuse to approach any issues with an objective view.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but previously you were stating that it was stupid to carry more than this apparently perceived "limit" - it's not stupid, it's risky. There's a difference. If you play smart, you can minimise the risk by either reducing your cargo, or utilising any number of methods for safer transit from one system to another while maintaining the maximum possible cargo.

Also, people need to stop translating how people play the game as how people live their real lives - the two are not one and the same. While I agree that freighter pilots need to stop bitching, I stand firmly against your assumption that any one of them is incapable of taking responsibility of their real life. This is just a game, so please try to keep that in mind before you go libelling people expatiously.