EVE General Discussion

I just have enough basic intelligence to be sensible in what I risk so as not be bothered or effected by attackers.

If everyone had that then problem solved. For the minority who don't, I would rather not have the Devs move the goal post and lose the people who take time to plan things out. There are a bunch of games for the few idiots where everybody is a winner, EVE is for the sensible.

Not even the smart, just the sensible.

I still don't see why CCP hasn't tried to remove Security Status gain from 0.0 ( and possibly hi-sec ).

There really is no reason why CONCORD should lower your sec for destroying ships in high security space, only to reward it back when you go to kill rats in lawless 0.0 space.

Now if people had to regain their sec by ratting in low-sec instead ( where CONCORD actually needs you ), there'd be a bit of consequence for their unlawful behavior in hi-sec, and a bit more activity in low-sec

So you're saying the people who are ganking freighters are ganking freighters willy-nilly and with no self control?


What do you mean, CCP have chosen not to fight? They've buffed concord numerous times over the years, and on dec 4th they're going to extend the possible protection detail from "just" the corp to the everyone who's nearby.


EVE isn't healthy as a horse, but that certainly isn't because hisec is "too unsafe".

You would think so, but CCP is heading down the path of Trammel with the buffs to mining barges and the introduction of "you do anything illegal in hisec and everyone can shoot you scot free" which'll come dec 4th.

I'm sure even that won't be enough for a lot of people, though.

I'm guessing that my optimism at CCP eventually realizing what a terrible idea this is and rolling it back is rather misguided...

Yes. By the time they could possibly realize it's a bad idea, people in hisec will have gotten used to the extra security it provides, and it will then be a nerf, and that brings out the hardcore whiners who are all about nerfs are childish and a cheap way of doing game balance.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it's already too late, because people in hisec might even be expecting it to the point where they'll consider it a nerf if it was removed before it even hits sisi.

You must be right, after all, it's not like they could do any of this before this upcoming patch, or before the changes that outright buffed mining barge and exhumer defenses.

My objection to hi sec freighter ganking is that it cannot be defended against.

Scout ahead? Scout for what exactly? The gankers don't sit in the system, they warp in after the freighter has been bumped to stop it aligning. That's just stupid game mechanics, like knocking a jumbo jet off course by flying a cessna close to it.

Don't carry any cargo worth more than a half a billion? Even if that supposedly helps it renders frieghters totally useless as a ship class. Is that by design? I don't think so.

I've lost a freighter to this exploit, and yes, using the bumping mechanic to get the kill IS an exploit. I wasn't AFK, yes I CAN afford to lose it, no I'm not stupid and no, I'm not whining about losing a ship, I really don't give a XXXX. I have however still cancelled my accounts as I am not comfortable with the game mechanic that allows a freighter to be killed so easily with zero risk.

Flame me all you like about 'rage quitting' but it's nothing like that. If you see what you think is a flaw which spoils a game for you then you stop playing it, no matter what game it is.

And no, you can't have my stuff before some highly unoriginal child asks.

Is GS still sponsoring as well? I could toss 2-3B into a "revival", just to spice up Christmas.

Your corpmates can fire upon anyone who aggresses you. You either don't know this, or have chosen to ignore this.

Don't worry, CCP is making it so everyone on grid at gates are your escort once retribution hits.


Nope, it isn't.